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    ublock origin on my PC works amazing. I forget yt has ads most of the time. If web drm becomes a thing I’ll hopefully have a pinhole in front of my traffic by then

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      Not sure if you meant pihole or not, but if you did, I thought I’d just mention that a pihole doesn’t remove ads on YouTube due to the fact that the ads and the videos are served from the same server. You block the ads, you block the videos. Made me quite sad after I set my one up.

      Unless you didn’t mean pihole, in which case do enlighten me as to what a pinhole is :))

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        I meant pihole stupid autocorrect. That’s sad to hear… I wonder how ublock works cause yt never shows ads for me but videos work great

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          Yeah, I was super gutted when I found out. Apparently it did use to work in the past when they used to serve the ads from different servers, but not any more, unfortunately. It’s not completely pointless to install, though. It provides some great software out the box to monitor internet traffic on your network, and I’m pretty sure that in some cases it can speed up your internet by acting as a self-hosted DNS server.

          The reason UBlock works, is because it has direct access to the HTML, CSS and JavaScript sent to you. It can alter the web page directly. UBlock scans all the web pages you load, and automatically removes anything it recognizes as an ad. There’s a lot more to it than just that, and it’s a really clever tool, but essentially what it does is directly alter the code of the web page. Unfortunately, this isn’t really possible to do from another device on your network. I did look into somehow setting up a device which scans all incoming traffic like Ublock does, and then removes adverts similarly, but this isn’t really possible since HTTPS traffic is encrypted. Any attempt at removing the encryption would likely result in a heap of issues to using various services, and you’ll likely get constant warnings on your browser about a page being insecure e.t.c.

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    No, you love the creators you watch. Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder. I use newpipe, i never see ads but if i have a creator i want to support i send them money as direct as possible without middlemen (direct donations during livestreams for example). i pay the creator for their work. If google wouldn’t violate my human dignity by shoving a camera up my ass 24/7 i might consider giving them money to run their servers but as long as they try to make me a product they won’t see money nor data from me

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      That’s a fair point, maybe I should look into using newpipe and use what was my monthly payment as a direct donation to my favorite creators instead. Thanks for the informative reply!

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        yeah I would say block ads, and then whatever u would normally spend on premium, donate to your favorite creators

        the creatora only get 55% (which isn’t bad all things considered) of the ad/premium revenue. by donating directly u spend the same but they get more

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          But to be fair, if YouTube themselves don’t make anything then the service that hosts my content creators isn’t sustainable. So just getting premium feels like the most moral option all things considered, at least for me.

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      No, you love the creators you watch.

      And Youtube makes that possible. Show me another service that is as good as Youtube is? Unlimited uploads for everyone, extremely fast constant delivery network. Require no logins or accounts to access the site. 4K video etc… etc… All for the low price of free with ads, or pay for no adds. They every are even one of the best at paying content creators. There is a reason almost every content creator ends up having some kind of account on Youtube.

      Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder.

      I don’t believe Google is in the business of selling data. There business is ad delivery. They keep the data to themselves as it is their secret sauce to deliver ads.

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        Google absolutely is in the business of selling user data, through their ad network. AdSense customers use that data to target ads. It’s their whole business model. Just because they aren’t being given a database with all that data doesn’t mean they aren’t paying for access to it.

        Facebook operates the same way.

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    yes it does make profit. it’s revenue is over 31 billion dollars if it was not making profit after having this much revenue. Google will just delete it.

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      Yes, YouTube is profitable for Google. In 2022, YouTube generated an estimated $29.2 billion in revenue, and its parent company, Alphabet, reported that YouTube contributed roughly 10% to all Google revenue. YouTube’s primary revenue streams are advertising and subscription services. In 2022, advertising accounted for about 85% of YouTube’s revenue, while subscription services accounted for about 15%.

      YouTube’s advertising revenue comes from a variety of sources, including:

      • Display ads: These are static or animated ads that appear before, during, or after videos.
      • Video ads: These are longer ads that play before, during, or after videos.
      • TrueView ads: These are skippable ads that appear before videos.
      • Bumper ads: These are 6-second unskippable ads that appear before videos.
      • Sponsored videos: These are videos that are created by advertisers and promoted on YouTube.

      YouTube’s subscription services include:

      • YouTube Premium: This service offers ad-free viewing, background playback, and access to YouTube Originals.
      • YouTube Music Premium: This service offers ad-free music listening, background playback, and access to YouTube Music Originals.

      YouTube’s profitability is due to a number of factors, including:

      • Its large user base: YouTube has over 2 billion active users per month.
      • Its high engagement: YouTube users watch an average of 1 hour and 15 minutes of video per day.
      • Its targeted advertising: YouTube’s advertising platform allows advertisers to target their ads to specific demographics and interests.

      While YouTube is profitable, it is not as profitable as some other online platforms. For example, Facebook’s advertising revenue is about 98% of its total revenue. This is because YouTube shares a portion of its advertising revenue with content creators. However, YouTube’s profitability is still significant, and it is a major source of revenue for Google.

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      Its current operating profit is estimated to be about 3-18% of the total revenue after removing costs, which while something wont last long when you have a finite number of people to show ads and get subs from but an infinite amount of data to store and transmit worldwide.

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    If money could stop things from enshitifying, there would be very few shitty things on the planet.

    If everybody on the planet subscribed to YouTube premium they would still become enshittified.

    Even with 8 billion monthly subscriptions at $10 a month or more, Google would raise the prices and provide less service.

    They would do whatever they have to do whatever they can do to extract the most amount of money they possibly can out of the product.

    This is not just because Google is a shit company, this is because greed knows no bounds. The only way for a company to stop being enshitified is for the company from the top down to be radically opposed to enshittification.

    Only a good King can stop enshittification.

    There are no good Kings in Google.

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    I’d rather click two buttons than give them my card information and send them money, but ok.

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    Or you can use an ad-blocker. Also youtube is profitable just fine. If it wasn’t Google would have shut it down a long time ago.

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    I don’t bother paying for it. I use it quite a lot and I prefer paying for a service with my hard earned money than with my privacy. Also, no ads.

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    It’s like saying AAA games should probably be way more than $60. Despite the fact they used to be $40… then $50… and more expensive carts have ALWAYS been around since the SNES? and definitely N64 days lol.

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    Your ignorance is so cute! I could just punch pinch those cheeks!

    What would you say to someone with premium that still uses revanced because it’s a better client? Probably nothing because there’s no script for that.

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      I used revanced on sync for Reddit to keep it alive past it’s death date, though I’m much more engaged with Lemmy since Sync released for it too.

      What makes the revanced version of YouTube better to you? Maybe I should check it out.

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          That too, I’ve been using it so long I forgot it was even a thing that needed blocking. 😆

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        Downvotes for one thing, also removing shit I’ll never use, easier downloading when I want to archive a video, etc.