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09.08.2023 (dd/mm/yyyy) anybody?
I like it for reading and using the date day to day
But yyy-mm-dd is best for sorting and archiving files
People rarely use them in real life, but ISO 8601 and RFC 3339 (both are almost identical) are the most natural ways of writing date and time. Just like how we write numbers, their components are written from left to right in the decreasing order of significance: yyyy-mm-ddTHH:MM:SS. I like it by default for precisely the reason you mentioned - sorting. It even helps quick visual comparisons.
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Aug 9, 2023and08/09/23literally say the same thing.The first isn’t ambiguous at all; the second is hella ambiguous.
It’s only ambiguous because there’s a second standard.
08/09/23 literally says the 8th day of september.
They do but one informs the reader of the order of the format while the other doesn’t.
Look it’s easy, you just wait until the 13th of the month to figure out which format it is. Is 12 days really so much to ask?
I’m so excited for tomorrow
ISO standards… unbelievable how many people don’t get it!
The way I see it, the US just writes it the way it’s spoken. “August 9th, 2023” vs. “the 9th of August, 2023”.
No, the US just chose this order and speaks it the same way. I don’t speak it this way, you’re just used to it (just like everyone is to the way they speak it)
Alright, then I guess change the way you read a clock too… My day to day use doesn’t include the year at all. Just mm/dd
Why change the way you read a clock? year/month/day hour:minute:second
You would never read a clock as minute:second:hour, which is analagous to how Americans phrase dates.
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These are the right dates
I don’t know why you wanted to know year before month or day, I use dd/mm/yyyy sometime I didn’t even use yyyy just dd/mm because day change most frequent then month then year
YYYY-MM-DD is best when programming because it’s unambiguous and it makes sorting easier. For humans DD-MM-YYYY is indeed the most sensible.
Months are dumb. Inconsistent lengths, the names are out of sync (OCTober isn’t month 8), pretend to be based on lunar cycles but not, etc.
Give us Year/Day date formats. Extra new year holiday on leap years.
You can blame that on the Romans. October was the eighth month.
09/08/2023 (I’m an American who doesn’t care what everyone in my country uses if that “custom” is nonsense…)
Do you use metric? :)
I use Fahrenheit just because it’s a pain to get everything set to Celsius and other Americans don’t understand it. But I use grams, kilos, millilitres, kilometres, etc. Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.
So you use Fahrenheit because Americans don’t understand Celsius but you don’t convert to imperial for them if they don’t understand? That just seems inconsiderate as it’s really no trouble at all
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Date Formats:
Aug 9, 20239 Aug, 20238/9/2023 US9/8/2023 GB2023/8/9Correct Date Formats:
9 AUG, Juche 112 ✅
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Best format.
%s2023-08-09
Only for files
Majority of the world uses YYYY-MM-DD. Day 1st makes no sense. If you need the month or year it should come 1st. You need to zoom into what you need not select from any number of months with the same day. That would be like putting time with seconds 1st.
Not really, most countries use YYYY-MM-DD to save documents, photos or archive papers.
DD-MM-YYYY is for daily usage.
USA is the edgy teen after moving out of the parents house (Europe) and finally doing stuff their own way. Not because it is practical, but because they feel rebellious.
Lol, This is probably the best explanation of America that I’ve ever heard.🤣👍🏾
Many of us are not from Europe
What year are you living in, 1951?
USA was colonized by europeans mostly, I believe ?
20% of the population in 1776 were slaves who came from Africa. There are more countries outside Europe
If it’s a file I want sorted by date the top is good. If I am talking about a date and spelling it out August the 9th of 2023 makes the most sense and seems natural, and if it’s a personal memo or date label on food I just use 08/09 with the zeros so I know it isn’t a fraction unless it’s frozen or shelf stable for long term storage where the year would be useful to know at which point it becomes 8/9/23
I thought everybody used different date formats based on need.
In UK we always say 9th of August 2023, ie the way our dates are written and i would say is more natural haha. Maybe Americans find it more natural the other way around because your dates are other way around. If you use the date system the uk has maybe it would sound more natural to speak perhaps.
I grew up on RuneScape and BBC programming, so I’ve been exposed to both formats for a long time (really fucked me up in spelling). I couldn’t say why August 9th sounds more natural, but it’s probably because most irl folks around me use it. The 9th of August didn’t sound bad, just more artificial, and it’s probably because my exposure to that spoken out was mostly media and pop culture.
The first and the last date format are terrible because you can confuse the day of the month with the number of the month.
I only like date formats where it’s not possible to confuse any field, like 8 Aug 2023. I minimize ambiguity.
If the date is in a file name, I make an exception using 2023-08-09 such that a string sort is equal to a date sort.
For actually displaying dates to others, I agree that spelling out the month is absolutely preferred. But if space is limited, you’re somewhat required to pick a very shortened format, and the US version is dumb, even if that’s what you should use when displaying in that locale.
But for working with dates on computers, year-month-day works great, because it’s still human readable, is naturally sortable, and makes it easier for serialization.
The first one is conventionally never year-day-month, and if anyone ever sent me a date of 2023-17-08, I would respond with, “What the hell?! Are you being evil on purpose?”
I swear, a lot of you would have no joy in life if you weren’t able to bitch about the stupidest shit.
But small things are important!
DD/MM/YYYY is the best in my opinion
I agree with this because if you were to say the whole thing verbally, you generally start with the day, the month then the year.
“It is the 9th of August in the year of our Lord 2023.”
We wouldn’t in America in most cases. I’d say it’s August 9th 2023. I honestly feel like this is such a dumb argument to have because it doesn’t matter except for communication with people who use other methods. Now metric vs imperial makes way more sense to me because the metric system is just so much easier for mathematical conversions.
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.
YYYY-MM-DD is better if you need to sort
If it weren’t so ingrained, I would be permanently using YYYY-MM-DD instead of DD/MM/YYYY.
Works great for east Asia, and it sorts!
I’d also like to advocate for using 24 time in speech.
See you at 21 tomorrow :)
