This would have been great to know 3 years ago… ahwell…
What happened?
I get being curious, but different people have different timelines and levels of comfort when processing their trauma.
If they’re ready to discuss and let you know what happened, they’ll offer the amount of information they’re prepared to share. If they don’t offer, then please respect their space.
That’s good advice for real life. But this is the internet. The social consequences for just not answering the dude are zero. It’s not even rude to completely ignore him. The story was teased, almost begging for the question. They may have wanted it asked.
If they want to share, they’ll share. I don’t think they’re going to feel prsssured because the internet asked.
You realise that if it’s traumatic to them they might not want to talk about it?
Ok but I wanna hear about it
The internet demands to know…
They are the ones tho brought it up, chill
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it’s a lie perpetuated by Big Tetris!!
jk, good to know. I assume this should work similarly for any game that doesn’t contain violent content and yet activates the brain.
I wonder if there’s any research on that? It’s been a while since I read the study but iirc there’s something specific about Tetris that increases the effect, something to do with manipulating objects to fit into neat rows.
So maybe trying to fit the shopping in the back of a car would be as effective! Anyway I posted this hoping it would be of use to some of the people affected by the latest lemmy attack.
Wait what lemmy attack? What happened?
Probably referring to the CSAM that was posted to one of the forums.
Someone is uploading child porn to one instance, which then gets federated across other instances. I suspect it’s the same dude who, after being banned for trying to wreck the site by creating ridiculous amounts of communities, vowed to continue wrecking the site.
Unfortunately it’s still ongoing, I saw something which I think was probably CSAM. Reported it immediately and the report wouldn’t go through so assume it was already removed, very quickly. There shouldn’t be any porn on sh.it.just.works (or however the instance is spelled) so if you see anything that looks pornographic on there, report it and don’t click on it unless you want to be scarred for life.
I only know hearsay but apparently world was spammed with CSAM
Probably to some extent, but there’s a few aspects that probably make Tetris exceptional for this
First, you have to pay attention and plan ahead, but in a simple enough way and fast enough that it discourages fully forming thoughts. You also can’t do it on autopilot - you can’t pattern match or rhythm your way through, so you can’t zone out. So while you’re playing, you probably can do very little to ruminate over the event and reinforce it
Second, it’s spatial reasoning, working + short term memory, and very visual. We encode long term memories like carving groves into wood - the longer we think about it while it’s in short term memory, the clearer the details. If ASAP you overwrite the short term spatial and visual memories with meaningless combinations of blocks, you lose a lot of detail. That’s going to result in a much weaker association of the emotions to a location or an image, making triggers less likely and easier to break
Third, it ties up your visual systems - as the primary sense of humans, visual processing is a huge portion of what our brains do. It’s tied up in complex ways with the way we predict things and access memories, and for reasons I barely understand that can be used to weaken triggers and dampen emotional response
So putting it together, it distracts you from effectively building a narrative by putting your thoughts into language. While that’s going on, it overwrites aspects of your short term memory over and over with meaningless junk data. Finally, it’s just soothing - you get little hits of dopamine and jolts of stress response
Excellent explanation, nice.
I would imagine crossword puzzles or anything similar in that nature could also apply.
A couple of hours? That’s a lot of fucking Tetris.
Have you played the new Tetris? I sunk quite a bit of time into that. It’s gorgeous, really good music that syncs with your moves.
Tetris Effect? Love it, great in VR too where you are entirely focused, almost transcendent.
That’s the one. Although it’s incredibly pretty I did find it a bit distracting at times, must be intense in VR
It works by sending you into a catatonic state from sheer boredom
Filthy casual.
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Hahahaha. That proper made me laugh
Cramming for a 1600 SAT? Pffff, just grind Tetris for a center 4-wide, get some real work done.
Real gamers play only using Tetrises smh
ew c4w certified wumbo moment
real gamers use hachispin
dpc? what’s that
My new catchphrase is “time for Tetris”.
Life in Philly be like ^
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Then you grow up to have panic attacks.
Noise cancelling headphones, perhaps?
VR Tetris.
We just watch Keeping Up Appearances for half an hour. Nothing could be as traumatic as trying to drink tea from fine bone china with hand painted periwinkles
It’s pronounced Bouqeeeeeeet!
Comedy is so essential these days. Much more preferable to horror, there’s enough of that in the world already without piping it in via the eyeballs
The other brilliant series to wind down with is Still Game.
Though This Country filled in the gap for a while!
My dad absolutely adores that show! It’s so well done. Meth Mick kills me everytime
It’s pronounced Bouquet!
mrs bucket?
Is this too do with the focus you get from playing Tetris as well as the Tetris effect that can occur afterwards that’ll keep your brain occupied so you don’t think about the trauma as much?
When you see something traumatic, your brain will over the next few hours create images of the traumatic event. These images will come back to you as flashbacks over the years. Playing a game that requires high focus on visual details prevents the brain from creating those images, and as a result you’ll get less (or not at all) flashbacks after the traumatic event.
I think you’ve summed it up brilliantly here. I’m sure anyone who’s ever played a game like Tetris a little too long will remember closing their eyes to go to sleep and still seeing tetronimos! So I guess it pushes everything else out of the ‘RAM’ of our visual memory, including the traumatic stuff. No room for this horrid memory, the mind-cupboard is full of tetronimos now
This is why after a traumatic event it is advised to do stuff to keep the brain occupied.
It can be Tetris or anything else, anything that can keep the brain busy.
yo… everyone is laughing cause its kind of funny but I had a really intense and traumatic childhood… and I also played a lot of tetris as a kid. Like more than 12 hours a day of it.
Is that seriously why my trauma didn’t effect me like it would have with other people??
That’s fucking nuts. Like what.?.
My mum used to work with criminaly insane people in an asylym. I realize now why she frequently jacked my Gameboy to play Tetris.
Can I ask what role she did? I read a book last year called ‘The Devil You Know - Tales of Forensic Psychiatry’. It was very illuminating and interesting, each chapter a different (anonymised) story of one of her patients. Especially her ‘bike lock’ theory of why some people can commit such horrific crimes.
‘Bike lock’ theory?
She posits that some people have a ‘combination lock’ which, when the right numbers all come up together, pushes them over the line into a horrific violent act.
EG if someone was beaten by their father as a child, go through some trauma as an adult, are under a lot of stress, then some guy in the street who looks a lot like their dad used to starts screaming at him because he bumped into him, then BLAM they’re smashing his face in with a nearby brick before they understand what’s happening.
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There was another study that also looked into that, I believe it was called MK-ULTRA.
I didn’t know Muse did psychological studies. Fascinating!
Whoa shit 😳
Uh, I think she was a handler, of sorts. Don’t rightfully know, I just know it was a job with a lot of risks and it was hella stressful. Her workplace had one “inmate” escape and murder a 9-year old one time and that was just, well devastating.
I take my hat off to anyone who does these sorts of jobs, it must be very mentally gruelling.
Can confirm, I’ve been playing tetris for three hours and I’ve almost completely forgotten about the dead hooker in my trunk.
Huh, that’s the kind of thing that would just make me start visualizing how many I could fit in there.
My problem is that I always go for the biggest hooker, when offered the choice.
Gotta solve your problems one at a time…
Can confirm, not just with the game but similar activities eg: stacking those body parts into a nice cube really takes away from the stress of killing someone
Oh, but be careful - stacking them however neatly won’t make the full rows disappear.
Depends on how good your friends are.
I like to do a thinking pose but with their hands on my chin.
time to put tetris in the mental health folder on my phone
Oh noo, I can still hear the 4bit music from the Gameboy classic speaker …
… how? Where is it coming from? Why won’t it stop? What is it trying to mask & protect me from?
