Heed the content warnings in the video, this video is a difficult watch, but it’s really good. Thought Slime: Can I learn to love my body?
And you can’t just say no, it’s a systemic problem that could be solved with walkable cities, better public transportation, stretching breaks at work, eliminating or greatly reducing subsidies for corn and processed foods, and other stuff. We have to consider every step food takes from its source to the shelves, and all the reasons citizens aren’t able to be more active or afford foods that could better support an active life.
All things that are certainly achievable if we all take responsibility for community health instead of wailing on individuals.
I guess OP has never heard of eating disorders.
Yep, this is akin to: “Depressed? Just say no.” “Depressive thoughts cannot legally enter your mind if you don’t have them.”
People don’t realize that overfeeding is not the real cause of the problem, but rather a consequence.
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Ironically that is kind of a good way to combat depression
You mean saying “no” to depressive thoughts?
I feel that if you can combat depression that way, then you are not really having clinical depression.It’s like asking a type 2 diabetic to stop being so resistant to insuline. If your body can stop resisting insuline, then it’s not diabetic.
It is a very slow process taking multiple years, usually. But fundamentally changing the way your mind works and processes problems is key to keeping depression at bay. Negative thought patterns are reinforced in an endless cycle with depression.
Of course external factors play a heavy part in depression too.
Cognitive therapy is a bit more than just saying your thoughts to stop or go away.
I can understand what you mean to say, I think. For example, cognitive behavioral therapy aims to change the way in which people suffering from depression think in order to cure them. It can be quite effective. However, in many cases with major depression different therapies, trauma treatment or medication is also required. In the worst cases, someone might need electroshocks.
I think the issue is that people with depression and people with eating disorders often get blamed for it and they often blame themselves. They are legitimately ill and it is not their fault, just like having any other condition is not your fault. However, due to society’s message of ‘just say no’ to depressive thoughts or food, they might keep on blaming themselves and feel like they are a failure and should just try harder. This can make them just fall deeper in the pit they are in, instead of getting the treatment they need.
I think the last part is not what you meant, but it sounded a bit that way.
You’re not wrong, but fundamentally changing the way your brain processes and interacts with the world takes more than just time. It takes an unbelievable amount of effort, therapy, and support. And even then it’s not a guarantee that you’ll be able to maintain it.
So while you’re right, your comment makes it sound much easier than it really is.
Just like building up your muscle, it takes time. Which is why you don’t see memes/people saying: “So weak that you can’t lift 100kg? just say no, raise your arms while holding a 100kg weight. It can’t legally fall if you don’t drop it.”
I mean, logically stopping depressive thoughts is the only way to stop depression, the same way as how lowering the caloric intake is how you get rid of obesity, or lowering the resistance to insulin is how you stop being diabetic type 2. Or how the only way to be someone who lifts 100kg is to actually lift a 100kg weight.
But that’s so obvious that it’s not helpful. It’s not like people don’t know what makes them depressed… or obese… or weak… what they want is advice in how to train themselves, not someone telling them they should “just” stop being the way they are (which is probably something they already keep reminding themselves about! …most of the time, that’s the one thing they don’t need help with).
It isn’t only eating disorders either, there are so many conditions (and medications!) that can cause or have the side effect of weight gain, and then a ton more that don’t directly cause it but do directly make it hard or even impossible to “work” off.
This post is ableist fatphobic bullshit.
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Fat people be like
dieticians HATE this simple trick!
Dieticians: No, we in fact keep saying to do it!
My depression says otherwise.
[INHALES]
Eat 1/3 of calories from protein (improves immune system, improves healing rate & mood, your blood has amino acid levels like sugar, respect them). Substitute simple sugars (2-10% thermogenic calorie loss in digestion which also correlates to low prebiotic value) for complex carbs (~30%). Eat more fiber. Just buy some dextrin it’s a lot cheaper than produce.
Eat potassium (spinach, cabbage, potatoes, milk, oranges, NOT bananas you’d need 12 daily) and iodine and a multivitamin (lacks both in USA) so you stop feeling a weird craving for food that never can be satisfied.
Yeah, it’s easy:
- eat less
- no fast food
- no sugary shit
- eat less
- lots of fruit and vegetables
- lots of water
- eat less
That’s basically all there is to it if you’re not trying to get a six pack. It takes some time to get used to, but then your body will start figuring out things by itself (like '“I need more vitamins” and “I hate feeling bloated because of empty calories”).
More veggies, less fruit, no high sugar fruit. Berries are good. Lots of leafy greens and fish.
former fatty here with a little addition: Also just eat less outside of your meals. Go diet in the supermarket by buying less, instead of dieting by not eating what have at home. You spend 20 minutes in the supermarket and multiple hours at home. It’s MUCH easier to be strong for 20 minutes than for 12 hours.
This used to work before doordash.
That leaves a lot of time to swing by Wendy’s!
You underestimate how lazy I am.
