• Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Fuck, whenever i see this dude art am like, damn bro these look really good . His art is better than most comic artists i saw and yet it’s used for utter garbage. How saddening…

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      THE YOUTH PASTOR PREGNANCY ABORTIONS FOR MY LITTLE SUSIE ARE JUST FINE.

      It’s all the other little whores who are enjoying sex or may die from their pregnancies that we really worry about. Those babies need to be saved for Jesus.

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        We’re talking about a religion based on the fact that a god made a girl pregnant without her consent. So I guess it’s part of their beliefs ?

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      I wouldn’t be upset, I’d just be a little disappointed. If you’re gonna believe in God, there are better ideas out there than that, but I wouldn’t be upset about it unless the usual beliefs and actions tag along too.

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    It’s funny how ‘getting an abortion’ is the most atheist thing the artist could think of - I believe that’s not even forbidden in the Bible?

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      There’s a recipe to induce abortion in the Bible.

      Not reading it is part of the book club.

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        I’ve been trying to find that bit and my apparently poor googling techniques are finding nothing. Do you mind sharing an article or passage? (Just got back from a vacation with some fairly religious family members who were goddamn tiring, would be nice to be able to cite this next time.)

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          Oh, if you want more fun, read them these two verses:

          Exodus 21:12:

          Anyone who assaults and kills another person must be put to death.

          And Exodus 21:22:

          When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that she has a miscarriage but no other injury occurs, then the guilty party will be fined what the woman’s husband demands, as negotiated with the judges.

          Then ask them why the punishment for killing a person is not the same as the punishment for causing a miscarriage.

          After that, ask them why, if the Bible is the “inerrant” word of God, do some translations of that second verse use “miscarriage” while others say something more general like “caused a premature birth” instead? Because the meaning of that verse changes drastically depending on which way it’s translated.

          At this point, you’ll probably be called a godless baby killer and uninvited from Thanksgiving dinner.

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            After that, ask them why, if the Bible is the “inerrant” word of God, do some translations of that second verse use “miscarriage” while others say something more general like “caused a premature birth” instead? Because the meaning of that verse changes drastically depending on which way it’s translated.

            According to Google Translate, the original Hebrew for just that phrase directly translates to “and her children went out,” but with the full context of the verse it becomes “and her children are born.” Make of that what you will.

            I could translate it to “and she gets a black eye,” but that doesn’t make the word itself any less reliable, only my wrong translation. I don’t know about the people you hang out with, but I’m pretty sure it’s important for Christians to understand that human translations are prone to error.

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              It’s problematic to try to read that verse as just meaning “born” exactly because of the context. The whole passage is about restitution in two scenarios: a pregnant woman who is injured as a bystander from two men fighting and

              1. suffers an unclear birth event with no additional damage

              2. suffers an unclear birth event with additional damage.

              Breaking it down that way, it seems apparent to me that the birth event must mean a miscarriage. If two men fight and that causes a woman to go into labor, but her child is safely delivered, what restitution would be owed? What harm has actually been caused? That actually eliminates scenario 1. The only way the whole passage makes any sense for the father to be owed payment is to see what property he has been deprived of- a potential child, or a potential child and his wife. And this just helps to reinforce the point: the punishment for causing the death of a person is not the same as for causing a miscarriage, which means that in the Old Testament unborn fetuses we’re not equal to people

              And no, American Evangelicals do not allow any room for error in translation of the Bible, because they see it as God’s direct word to man and therefore it can’t be wrong.

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                Guess I must be something other than an American Evangelical then. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                It sounds like you found a sensible way to translate it.

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              Born, or birthed? A stillborn is still birthed. See, we can play this game for millenia, others already have.

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                I copied what Google Translate told me. I’m no expert on matters relating to birth. That’s why I said “make of that what you will.”

                However, I do know that we have a lot more technical language than they did back then, so that’s something to keep in mind.

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          Just ask them how god defines weddings in Christianity then point out Jews had weddings first.

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            They’re both abrahamic religions… It would make sense that God (being the same supernatural being in both religions) would have the same definition under both religions…

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              It would but it doesn’t. Jews by and large don’t care about homosexual marriage and even find it acceptable per God’s teachings. The only ones who don’t are the conservative Jews.

              Christians on the other hand by and large care about homosexuality alot. Add to it Christians (in the states at least) like to say that they defined marriage, there’s proof that isn’t true. So if Christians didn’t invent it and were born of Judaism that would say to be that Christian belief regarding marriage is irrelevant from a “we created it” standpoint.

              Tying it back to my original thought, pointing that out to Christians pisses them off.

              This also works with abortion. Most Jews don’t care about it, some even go so far as to say this “a baby before birth is merely a part of the mother’s body.” Meaning it’s up to the mother what to do about her body. Up to and including termination.

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          It really doesn’t mention abortions far as I can tell, and the people who say the Abrahamic tradition is anti-abortion is a bunch of shit as well.

          My Source

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          There is a kind of “recipe” in Numbers 5:11-31

          It’s a “test for an unfaithful wife” but it’s a curse which would make a woman miscarry a child if it belonged to someone other than her husband.

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            Pro-abortion in the case of adultery or rape. Plus it is from the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament so it’s a Christian thing by inheritance from Judaism.

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    What in the manufactured persecution fetish is this bullshit? Where’s the meme?

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      Didn’t you hear? Everything is a meme now.

      This is a joke, but it’s also not (sadly)

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        Everything’s a joke, but nothing is. Everything’s ironic, but also everything’s serious. Jokes are meant to make light of situations, but you can’t make them about serious stuff. It’s Schrödinger’s comedy, a true definition of Metarcasm: Everything real is satire and every satire is genuine.

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        My4 Yo found one of those in a bathroom and i was so pissed. And i couldnt really explain to her why she “couldn’t have the comic.” I told her it wasn’t a nice thing and NOBODY shpuld be reading it.

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            I’ve known a few people who have been servers, who had the tip line scratched out and one of those fake $100 Bible tracts left for them.

            Sometimes I really believe they litter that shit as a power play and not as a missionary thing.

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      Yes, there’s a whole series of them. If they were satire, I’d adore them. They’re not satire so I merely love them. The Biden “ain’t black” ones are my favorite.

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          Mostly the artist’s interviews with rightwing pundits. I suppose I should have said that they’re without irony, but I think my meaning was understood.

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            Yet here they are constantly having thier messages spread further and more prolifically than others in the same medium. Keep hate viewing the right into prominence, see how that works out

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              Except this shit is so ridiculous it comes off as satire without context. I’d be hard pressed to say this is successfully spreading their message. It makes them look ridiculous.

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                When Rush Limbaugh was first on the air, my father who has always been a shockingly progressive person was sure SURE Limbaugh was satire. After a bit he got that the dude was sincere, and he kept listening for a little bit largely under these same opinions. Rush Limbaugh eventually became a power house of the rights culture.

                While the majority of commentators are mocking it, the majority of users on sites like these don’t comment and they’re being shaped by the propaganda bombarding them from all sides every single day

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                  And then people wonder why discussion boards for games have flooded with questions “is this game woke?”

                  …ffs they’re so goddamn inundated with garbage opinions on social media that they’ve been programmed to seek out things to be mad about… Who the fuck cares if you can CHOOSE your pronouns in a game…

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    Imagine if we just leaned into their wacky right-wing conception of pro-choice and were like “yeah, our endgame is to have as many abortions as possible per capita.” Their heads would explode lol