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Ah yes, “memes”
Where is my meme status quo flavored.
I luckily don’t hear that much. I mostly hear fellow wage slaves making barely enough to slowly die repeat bullshit news headlines like “no one wants to work anymore” all the while working harder and harder for less and less. It’s incredibly depressing.
When I worked at DGX, basically EVERY customer said this in response to seeing me being the only one behind the counter…
No… No, this store just has shit pay, forces EMPLOYEES to pay for parking, and is willing to fire people at the drop of a hat.
I get that argument on paper but I think it’s more of the government’s doing. Hear me out first, we could live off the grid, build our own house, our own farms, never work for a job, but the government stops us, they are the weapons of the banks and rich who enforce authority.
They gave the housing market and land to the banks. I understand many blame minorities for taking our jobs, when in reality, capitalists just hire whoever works for cheaper, and yes, that’s true. But if wasn’t for government regulations, more jobs could exist for everyone, or you could live off the grid.
I like to cite how many despise healthcare being tied to your job, but government involvement caused that in the first place.
We live under corporatism/fascism. Yes, the rich run everything, but they have the government be the ones to control us. You must first get through the pawns if you want the king.
You think it’s building codes keeping people in poverty??
Let’s try to elaborate more.
We live under corporatism where the rich have bought out everything. The banks own the land. Big Pharma runs the medical industry. And the military industrial complex runs NATO and such. We call this money lobbying.
It doesn’t just affect politicians, even agencies and armies. The FDA and CDC for instance are owned by big pharma. Big pharma lobbies to these agencies to create more regulations, yet, these regulations the agencies make never seem to hurt the big guy, only the smaller companies starting up. They want to kill the competition. That’s why medicine and insulin can be so expensive.
Banks like JP Morgan financed the war on terror. We came into the middle east to help their people rebuild, instead, we expanded JP Morgans banks, and drew out the war to finance them better, among many other terrible things.
There could be tons of jobs right now, but people lobby to have regulations crush the smaller guys so few monopolies have power. The government enables the rich.
So, when someone is in poverty, let’s ask why from every angle possible. Why can’t they have a house? Credit scores, banks owning everything, and blackrock eating up the housing market. Why can’t they get a job? Not enough jobs available. Why can’t they find food and temporary place to stay? Inflation, which is the silent tax making food more scarce, and no one wanting to give the poor a place to stay and help them get off their feet and become independent.
When you see all of these things, you realize that the powers that be don’t want us to be self sufficient and independent from them. I don’t see it as just “housing codes.” More as government control. Think of the banks as the king, and the government as it’s military.
Yes, I understand oligarchy and also corporate capture. Those things are bad.
What does that have to do with friends and neighbors blaming minorities?
I’ve talked with socialists before. They had interesting reasons to justify socialism. They talk about how minorities come over the boarder and steal jobs, but claim that it’s because the rich hires who works for cheaper, that’s why this happens as minorities will work for cheaper. At first, I thought it was an unbeatable argument. But, if it wasn’t for such government regulations, more jobs and competition would be available for these people. And if things didn’t work out for people, they should just be able to homestead like what people once did.
Some socialists believe that late capitalism has caused our recessions. They see value in work, but not the dollar. My argument is that if it wasn’t for the FED causing inflation, things wouldn’t be so bad. Woodrow Wilson created a centralized bank, worse thing possible. And we had presidents ban the gold standard to top it all off, that’s why money feels useless. If it was a finite currency (like bitcoin aims to be) then I see great value in it.
Honesty, I’d consider myself to be libertarian at the level of federal government. But less libertarian and more constitutionalist the closer to home it gets. I don’t necessarily support government, but definitely governance if so to speak.
People like Ted K were definitely smart. He believed we should go back to the Neolithic era in the sense where we have our small local communities with direct democracy. In terms of freedom, and maybe happiness, that’s the best option.
You think you understood his comment?
No. I didn’t.
He seems to be saying that we must either choose anarchism or corporatism? Or that building codes and other regulation is a slippery slope to poverty and fascism?
You must have the wrong comment then. They didnt mention building codes. You’re the only one mentioning building codes.
My state doesn’t have building codes.
My state is still shitty for poor people. Probably more shitty than states with building codes
Why the fuck are we talking about building codes?
To be fair to my egregious summarization he kicks off by saying life would be better if people could just build homes off the grid.
Anyone can build off-grid if they want to, as long as they purchase their land and pay property tax. OP admitted to being mostly libertarian, so I think they’re really just complaining about taxes. I personally think libertarianism is a slippery slope to anarchism, because taxes are what pay for roads, police, firefighters, etc.
No one ever gets my points. No one can build off grid if they want to because they have to buy the land. It was never like that if we were to go back to the U.S. in the late 1700s.
Property tax and income tax I’m against. But I said that I do believe in governance at the local level, and as long as it’s constitutional. So taxes on gas for instance to pave the roads is sorta ok in my book.
Unregulated lobbied capitalism. I’m okay with capitalism and competing ideas. What I’m not okay with is some of the late stage problems we’ve encountered as a society. Assuming the US average person lives to be a very low of 50, we are four generations deep. Ive known two generations in my own lineage. That’s not very long.
It’s okay to make better systems. Even for billionaires its okay because a rising tide floats all the boats. This is something that needs to be taught better to the upper class. If these guys had less complaining workers, people willing to contribute more so in their enterprises, workers who are happy to make their products, it would be fine. Putting the squeeze on the little guy does nothing for these dudes besides some tight margins.
Coupled with a very elderly legislative body we are left with senseless greed in both trade and politics. Portions of the population just consume politics like it’s a sitcom. What we’re left with is a system in need of refinement.
When economic power is functionally political power, and self-perpetuating economic inequality is the default under capitalism, this is inevitable over time.
You can push against it’s nature with that kind of thing, and you might see some temporary improvement, but the baked-in incentive structures will inevitably be followed, and the decline to late stage capitalism and collapse will continue.
If these guys had less complaining workers, people willing to contribute more so in their enterprises, workers who are happy to make their products, it would be fine.
I am not sure that would work. Happy people start to get self-aware and then start to make demands. People who are suffering one way or another are easier to control.
Look for example at how people behave after a war. They work together, build stuff together, do everything to manifest peace. Look at how they behave a few decades later … it has fallen back to in-fighting. Once everything is in order again, people fight among each other. Neighbors fight for shit like wrongly places trees, some build gangs and move around to destroy stuff just for fun, etc.
Humans are shit. We are just not made for being happy.
Even grosser
That’s probably dementia
I don’t know man I just work here
I have the perfect plan. We hook all children up to a lifelike VR war simulation shortly after being born. Then when they reach a certain age we pull them out of it so they’ll behave cooperatively.
Well, if we believe the great prophets Wachowski in their prophetic depiction called “The Matrix”: the people in that simulation would just go crazy and die.
Gross
We need more general knowledge.
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Years upon years of pro-capitalist propaganda is a helluva drug.
Do billionaires and millionaires count? What? Do we call them rhe financially unchallenged? /s
I think prefer my memes to be generally funny, instead of angry and political
Billionaires are a minority… something like 1% of the 1% of people
(not disagreeing) And due to capitalism, they and the exploited will always exist, and have the power they have. If the billionaires of today didn’t exist, some other people would be in their place, and nothing would have changed. Capitalism is the root.
No matter wether capitalism or something else. People want power. Thise who have more will do anything to keep it. People fight back. reform Or social collapse. Repeat.
It’s a cycle that will repeat as long as their is something to opress.
Im not saying we should stop fighting. But even if we win it will happen again.
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The struggle’s real.
Wtf I’m a bigot now!
Simple, under this system the more desperate folks undercut him. They don’t see the rules of the game are what is causing that. They couldn’t imagine a system under other rules, except for Stalinist nightmares. So crushing the people who undermine them is the only option they can imagine (and have been lead to believe by the preachers of hate)
„1% of people hoarding 99% of wealth in the world, and most of them have the same skin color and religion like me? It has to be the fault of people with a different skin color and/or religion that I’m not getting richer!“
“Have we considered blaming the people who are reviving old religions for our society’s moral failing instead of acknowledging that the political leaders of my country share my religion
Skin color: capitalism
Religion: money
You mean blame it on illegal migrants working without paying “their share” in taxes like everyone else?
Dude… the communists on Lemmy are hilarious!
Except your logic falls apart pretty quickly.
You are choosing to blame people who are getting exploited. Either firstly they are being hired under the table to do this work under the market rate. Wouldn’t this be the fault of the employer then. They are hiring such workers who are also not paying “their share”. Conservatives are so quick to point at illegal immigrants as the problem but rarely the people who you know actually pay them to make living in this country possible for them.
Now what if they were stealing someone’s identity to work a normal job? Its not right but identity theft is a large problem because we Americans for some fucking reason refuse to establish a national ID system. Where there are safeguards and ways to fix this but nah we are stuck with Social security numbers, which were designed merely for Social security for those above the age of 65 to claim their benefits but then it was misused by the IRS (which can we seen as fair since its a public entity in government) but then it was then abused by private organizations like banks and employers. Side tangent over, if an illegal immigrant did this they would then be paying “their share” of taxes. So your complaint is a nothing burger.
If we had an illegal immigration problem it is because there is a clear market for people who provide for them and it ain’t only the democrats. Republican’s Corpo rights focus is all about this and letting corps do whatever the fuck they want to do but focus on the suffering of others is their promise to their dimwitted voters (who vote primarily for abortion bans and immigration problems).
Yes let’s blame this on the illegal migrants instead of the businesses that create the problem. Easier to hate illegals than the “financially smart” business owner that’s fucking you over and breaking the law, amirite guys?
Easy, they’re brainwashed, exactly as planned. Watch the news lately?
When people have lived their whole lives marinating in anti-communist propaganda, they’re ideologically unable to reach the obvious conclusions and instead have to substitute shit like this or lizard people conspiracy theories.
