At least you get to take an ethics class. Mine was just about patents and Therac-25
I mean, we really don’t want a repeat of the Therac-25
Still can’t believe it happened the first time.
“Oh let’s just reuse the code and forget the hardware breakers on the machine it’ll be fine.”
Like I have no ethics training but they even had a (human operated) control rod in the first chicago pile who trusts a radiation gun to a SOFTWARE toggle?
It wasn’t collectively known that software was hard to do right at that time. If it always performed as intended it would have made for a less expensive and perfectly safe machine. It’s the textbook case in doing software wrong because there wasn’t one that happened before it.
I only learned about it from the “Well There’s Your Problem” podcast. Can’t believe my school never talked about it. We did hear all about Challenger though as well as a few other disasters where the lesson was “If you cut corners, or take chances, people can DIE”
I still think we should try it on musk himself. Those monkeys just didnt have moxie
Considering his recent behavior, I think he already tried it
Who could be controlling the chip?
It’s cute you believe that he is actually delivering a product that works.
He is just torturing animals for his own delusions.
A monkey of course
I once had a chemistry professor who used to work as a senior drug researcher at a major pharmaceutical company. He often joked about how the company treated the monkeys used for testing far better than the PhDs. If a monkey suffered a negative reaction there was a major investigation. I’m incredibly surprised Musk can be killing monkeys left and right and hasn’t been thrown in jail.
Here is a cnn article about it.
Elon wasn’t really involved with it. A university was.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/17/business/elon-musk-neuralink-animal-cruelty-intl-scli/index.html
Please explain how this is a meme.
No one knows what a meme is anymore. And idk if mods care.
Well hating Elon has become all you need.
Not…really. I mean, I hate Elon too but that doesn’t make it a meme by itself. It’s how it is presented, and this ain’t it, friend.
Down vote and move on. That’s how this works.
Well my instance doesn’t allow downvotes, so… shrug
I had to take 3 ethics classes for my cybersecurity degree
We don’t in my country, and I’m 100% sure people would complain if there was one. Even if they attended it, it would go completely over their heads probably.
A shitty capitalist society with deeply rooted individualism can’t be treated unless it’s done from the root of the problem.
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You can have a bad government with any kind of economic system. As evidenced by the USA. They tend to commit most of their atrocities outside their own country but that doesn’t make them any better than china or russia.
A QUICK look at his profile shows he’s from Greece. Greece is not Communist. You’re so angry about something you’re yelling at the wrong people. Take a step back, breath, take a break from Lemmy. Even if what you’re saying is accurate, the 0-60 attitude toward someone you didn’t know anything about is literally crazy.
A QUICK look at his profile shows he’s from Greece. Greece is not Communist
What does that matter? This site is riddled with communists from all over the world
What…?
Probably one of the Neuralink monkeys that escaped.
Lump me in with a group you hate because you disagree with me and say we’re all the same, that’s great for proving a point.
Just remember to always miss the point and half read everything and you should be fine.
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He’s not even stem the dude is a business major freak
I think he did actually major in physics
I don’t think he actually finished that degree. I could be wrong, but i think theres some questions around it
well he’s clearly a dumbass now so whatever happened with that degree he can’t have learned all that much
No he didnt he has the same degree in the same uni as our big wet boy.
He’s a major freak. He paid off Penn for his education.
His education is clearly limited to color by numbers.
Bussiness freak, failing upward with bazinga characteristics
Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
Philosophy should be taught from very early. The hability to think, argue, relate to others and understand others while being capable of express your ideas is extremely important.
Oh, I thought it was a meme similar to the old “Bush or chimp”-days, back when dubya was president, and was thinking: “surely they could have found a monkey that looked more like Elmo” but that’s not the point of these pictures, it seems 😕
I personally enjoy ethics as a subject, but has it been shown that studying ethics in uni actually leads to people behaving more ethically? I agree that ethics should be applied to science, but science should also be applied to ethics to determine the effective approach.
Not really possible to be scientific in that regard because of the fact that it wouldn’t be possible to quantify “behaving ethically” and there isn’t really a way to determine that in an objective manner
And there are actual real life goobers dying to get one themselves.
I really want a neural pointing device, but not by this dork.
I absolutely would. I’d not line up to be among the first, but controlling devices via a brain interface is an inevitable step of technological evolution.
It will provide such an immense performance boost, that many professions may become unattainable without having one. Possibly within our lifetime.
Enjoy the unskippable ads in your dreams.
Dreams? What about when it locks up and plays a virtual 200db 5khz tone for the rest of your life?
No, that’s a feature. To make it stop you need to pay a subscription.
You clearly have no idea what a brain interface is.
Is about to kiss the love of their lives “And now, I wanna show our newest sponsor! Hello Fresh have the best options so you can make your own dinner and blah blah blah…”
Inevitability ain’t what it used to be.
It’s so incredibly ironic that these are probably the same goobers who talk about microchips in vaccines.
No amount of ethics teaching will change the behaviour of a narcisistic psychopath like musk.
RIP to the monkeys. They deserved better.
You are confusing taking a class with actually having ethics. No amount of attending a lecture about ethics will convince you if you do not, as a basic premise agree with the ethical principle that loss of life is a bad thing. And to be very clear, ethical principles are subjective. There is no objectively right or wrong thing as far nature is concerned.
Classes don’t solve the problem entirely, but they’re a start and without them in this case a company so large and powerful that it has a space program and foreign policy planks is being guided by nothing but the intuition of someone who grew up spending money earned by child slaves and who thinks that scuttling an army’s mission in-progress is pacifism
And to be very clear, ethical principles are subjective. There is no objectively right or wrong thing as far nature is concerned.
Deonotlogists and other Moral Realists and Universalists are shook
But yeah, let’s imagine moral ontology was solved, and that moral relativism and nihilism are the only ethical theories around…
That sounds like a fun paradox.
Is “The only objective moral fact is that there is no objective morality” a truthful statement? Is it rational?
Ethics class gives you tools to analyze a problem. Any good class is part of the philosophy department and leans on the classic philosphers approaches to analyze the problem. Many engineers would have no exposure to this otherwise and i think its a good part of any Universities’ engineering curriculum.
Because then you’ll be able to dismiss the ethics while being aware of the implications of your research.
Disregarding the ethics while not knowing them grants you no extra points, whilst deliberately ignoring the ethical ramifications but understanding them gets you all the points
