edit: now it’s a meme and we can all hug in the comments.
When they could be playing Pathfinder? I think not!
If I can’t criticize every insignificant difference in lifestyle that I have with a stranger that I probably won’t ever talk to again in my life. How else will I stroke my ego and fulfill my basic need of feeling superior to others?
Pumpkin spice lattes?
Sure, as soon as you stop bombarding me with advertisements for these things to the point I retch at the very sight.
Fucking seriously my local Lowe’s had the Halloween decorations on display before the end of August. Two whole entire months am I getting BLEAURGH’d at by an injection molded demon every time I walk in to buy some screws and a quart of stain. Of course the Christmas decorations are going to be out on November 1st. Remember when there were only 12 days of Christmas? Now there’s something like 60.
Let people not like things.
You’re welcome to dislike something, but that doesn’t mean you need to discourage someone else from liking that thing. You can share an opinion without making it sound like it’s a sin against nature to disagree with that opinion.
I can discourage or encourage whatever I want. I didn’t elect you king of the discourse or agree to your rules
Criticizing things is fine but there is in fact a line where you become the asshole for doing it too hard or in a bad faith way. Or targeting individual people (particularly minors). The PSL thing is a good example because while we can criticize the comedication of it, some of the discourse around it is really misogynistic.
I literally don’t care about being an asshole, that’s fine. I can criticize whatever I want
You should probably care about things like misogyny and harassing minors lol. Which is what my post was about.
Making up something I’m not doing to get mad about
I wasn’t accusing you of it. We aren’t in DMs right now. It was a general statement about something I think is true, that people can use "criticizing things’ as a guise for assholishness and even bigotry. Not saying you’re doing that.
Nor did I elect you king of what I’m allowed to enjoy. Go ahead and police people’s thoughts if you insist, but don’t expect to be included by people you willfully offend.
people you willfully offend.
Lmao anyone offended because someone criticised their latest marvel slop or videogame deserves to be their head shoved in a toilet.
Go ahead and police people’s thoughts if you insist, but don’t expect to be included by people you willfully offend.
I will, and you can’t exclude me lmao. Deal with it, you have to deal with critiques and disagreements, how terrible for you
“Discourage” and “disallow” are two different things.
If intolerant bigots could read that they’d be very upset
Edit: and here they come to out themselves
bigotry and intolerance are when you criticize my treats
These people want a perfect protected treat echo chamber where they can consoom disney shit endlessly without anyone troubling them with “critiques” or “disagreement”
Jokes on you. I think Disney is releasing shit after shit release
Wow why you yukking Disney’s yum?
And you should be able to say that as loudly and as often as you like!
Eh that depends. The reactionary ragebait Youtubers who do this should all be thrown into a pit together and I’m suspicious of anyone echoing certain talking points about certain media because of them.
Then how else am I supposed to feel superior compared to everyone else if I don’t impose my standards on them? I’m just trying to help them. It’s like you want to live in a world where people don’t know they’re loosers. That’s dumb, you’re dumb. /s
Sorry but I like [thing] and therefore [thing] must be held inviolate from even the mildest criticism.
What criticism even is there against PSLs and Halloween decorations??
PSLs are gross, overly sugarladen drinks and emblematic of both crass consumerism and America’s obsession with unhealthy food. Halloween decorations are gaudy and an eyesore and also emblematic of crass consumerism, while also representing a non-trivial amount of non-biodegradable plastic waste that just winds up buried in landfills every year.
Ahh yes, the classic emblem of America’s crass consumerism checks notes flavored coffee.
PSLs and Halloween decorations are bourgeois decadance, clearly.
lattes are french and therefore bourgeois, real proles drink black coffee or take trucker pills.
No, not flavored coffee. PSLs. Different things. It’s like saying “pork sandwiches” when someone brings up the McRib. It’s not that simple. Food has a cultural component tied to its manufacture and identification. And, similar to the McRib, Starbucks style PSLs are food that probably shouldn’t exist and which only does as a byproduct of market capitalism. They’re the Lacanian ‘object a’ - an empty, manufactured falseness. We don’t desire the thing itself, but the thing whose absence it symbolizes. What you’re really consuming when you drink a PSL or a McRib is its innate mechanical predictability.
Have you considered the possibility that some people like the taste of pumpkin spice lattes? Or do you just get to dismiss everything you personally dislike as “The Lacanian ‘object a?’” You could substitute literally any food or drink for PSLs in what you said, it’s completely meaningless.
It’s just empty words and phrases for you to feel superior to others based on what treats you enjoy or don’t enjoy.
The Way
Normal people may take up a sport to have fun. Me? I will sit next to you at the houseparty and complain about how sports is draining the brainpower of countless clever people who could be solving real problems, like optimising the fun and variety out of the latest D&D ruleset
Excellent. More of this sentiment please.
Also, it’s important for everyone to feel comfortable expressing their dislike for things, so long as jumping on hateful-bandwagons isn’t a source of social credit.
Wild how happiness only seems to exist in commodities
Exactly my thoughts: work, consume, die.
What a fucking miserable fate for a human life.
At the end of the day, we’re still animals that like to fancy ourselves smart.
Exactly. It’s the animal parts of our nature that we should be relentlessly chasing.
Love, sex, dancing, laughing. To see the sun rise and watch it set again on a cool autumn day. To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Wow, that devolved quickly.
Many of you can’t recite the 1982 masterpiece Conan the Barbarian by heart and it shows.
Pumpkin Spice Lattes are good and also the official drink of hexbear.net (the other ones are good too).
Hexbears in this thread having a knee-jerk contrarian reaction to the “let people enjoy things” sentiment even though nobody actually has a problem with any of these things lmao.
i mean that’s literally it. None of this shit is genuinely controversial, it’s just the ambient neurosis of the internet that someone out there wants you crucified for your banal identity-forming habits.
Is nobody going to talk about the avocado man in the right-hand corner
D&D can be cheaper than wood working
All it costs you is a couple of friends every time you start a new campaign
Until I go to build my D&D table.
This is the rare hobby crossover and it costs more than the sum of its parts.
Isn’t the whole gripe with Pumpkin Spiced whatever the same with Christmas decorations popping up in mid-October? Like, its not fucking special if you’re putting nutmeg in my coffee in June.
Same with the D&D / Marvel / Roblox / Whatever fandom of choice. It was fine twenty years ago when it was the New Thing. Now we’re pushing 100+ hours of Disneyfied extended universe content on Marvel alone. Half my “recommended” podcast feed is six C-list celebrities making the soy face in front of a pair of crossed battle axes. And my street is lined with shitty faux-bakery corporate cafeterias trying to sell a piece of rye bread covered in guacamole for $15/slice.
Who actually enjoys this shit anymore? It feels like I’m being sealed into Disneyland, like a Pharaoh buried alive in his pyramid. It stopped being fun ages ago. Now I’m torn between boredom and horror.
You missed the entire point. If you’re bored with it all, that’s valid. If you don’t like psls too early, that’s valid. But let other people enjoy things. If they get enjoyment out of these products, does that really negatively affect you?
let other people enjoy things
What if they aren’t enjoying it?
What if they’re just getting caught up in the oppressive frenzy of hype culture, getting bombarded with ad-induced anxiety, or simply trying to fit in with whatever they’re told is “normal”? What if the emperor has no clothes but we’re all told its rude to point?
Am I allowed to make fun of Morbius? Or is that
under the Let People Enjoy Things rubric?If they get enjoyment out of these products, does that really negatively affect you?
If its getting injected into every webpage, spamming up my email, blaring across the radio, on billboards along every mile of road, and natively included in every other media venue I visit?
Yeah.
So who cares then? Stop worrying about other people and worry about yourself. Let other people enjoy things you think are a waste of time. If the worst it does is some billboards and spam, then it’s the same as all the other spam. Letting yourself get worked up over it is only affecting you. You aren’t making them better, you’re making yourself worse with anger. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go enjoy a pumpkin spice latte.
So who cares then?
Presumably the people drowning in this suffocating deluge of mass marketing.
Right, but they don’t feel like they’re suffering, they’re out enjoying things. You’re the one who is suffering, and it’s only because you’re letting it.
they don’t feel like they’re suffering
I’ve heard people who get tattoos often enough begin to enjoy the feel of the needle on their skin. So who are you to say tattooing bar codes on everyone’s necks is a bad thing? Don’t yuck my yum!
Christ then be mad at advertisers then, not the people who enjoy things. I don’t know man, just sounds like you’re going to be triggered by almost anything if people drinking coffee they like triggers you this much. I don’t know how to help you with that or what you want from me.
If someone liking something I don’t like doesn’t negatively impact me then doesn’t that mean that me not liking something that someone likes doesn’t negatively impact them?
If so then why does any of this matter? They’re free to gush on about the thing and I’m free to complain about it.
They want narrative control and they want a squishy feel good world without any critiques. Poptimism and it’s consequences has been amazing for corporate brands who can now act like victims when the biggest franchises on earth are mocked, and their fans do the victim whining on their behalf
Letting go of the part of you that judges other people is important. It hurts, because that is one of the few avenues of control we can experience in our lives alienated by capitlaism.
Letting your self be free of those childish emotions and learning to replace them with love for your fellows is the path towards true happiness however. That is one of those weird tricks the government doesn’t want you to know. Except it is real and it works. The more negative you are about other people the more negativity you experience and the more treats you need to buy to survive. The heart of every true revolutionary is full of love.
Blown away by a message like this coming from a hexbearian.
Good message, just an odd source.
I am judging the fuck out of nazis though and I will not stop
Tolerance for everything but the intolerant.
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I don’t mind people putting up decorations early, it’s when stores swap out their seasonal stock early that triggers me
Halloween is the only good holiday. It is the only one that maintains any connection to it’s pre modern roots. It is about giving candy to children for free fuck capitlaism. It is about enjoying everything society says is wrong. It requires some creativity in ways most people don’t get to experience the rest of the year. It invites experimentation and self expression.
Halloween is still pretty capitalistic. You have to buy the candy you are handing out, and are encouraged to purchase decorations and make your home thematic to the season
But it is still less bad than other holidays.
Have you just never been to a club on halloween? Halloween is, by no stretch of the imagination, free from capitalist endeavors.
Those between 18 and 34 participate at the highest rate, and they end up spending the most on their costumes (capitalism).
You can like Halloween all you want, don’t kid yourself into believing that it’s somehow “pure”
