• boiledfrog [he/him, undecided]@hexbear.net
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    I might be biased but I find that reddit has become insufferably right wing in it’s userbase, especially since the last fiasco.

    I just lookevery once in a while and it is full of the most reactionary, nationalist shite

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      I don’t understand it they go through the same Bumtober as the rest of us

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          Which drives me nuts! The month doesn’t change for 4 whole weeks! Why is it first? I want the info that contains the most variation displayed first so my eyes don’t have to glaze past useless info every time.

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            Year/month/day is superior when reading full dates, because it’s the least ambiguous. If I only need day and month, I’d rather use month’s full or shortened name (like 27 Sep). Ambiguity is the real enemy here, not any particular order

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              True, thats how my laptop displays the date. It never even mentions the month because I see that enough on other sources. I guess I just hate how month first is the default where I live more than anything. It perfectly sums up the subpar optimacy of the USA. Shit could be better, but its just not.

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                ¿And don’t you hate how US punctuation is at the end? ¿If you read an entire sentence, but you don’t even know it is a question until you’re at the end, then how do you know which intonation to use? ¡English is subpar and something should be done about that!

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                  Don’t even get me started on the three languages in a trench coat we call English.

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              Year-Month-Day is also my go-to for naming files (at least in systems that don’t have file versioning) because it allows Name sort to list things chronologically. Just have every version of the same file have the same name, then append Year-Month-Day to the end.

              I work with a lot of bespoke systems that use proprietary files, so file versioning with something like Google Drive or OneDrive goes right out the window. But Year-Month-Day makes it easy to maintain some semblance of organization.

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        I just realized that September 7,Oktober 8, November 9 and December 10 is a thing. I feel a bit dumb now. Then I got mad cus it’s screwed up. Was it some Romans squeezing in extra months or something?

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      This is a reddit or even Twitter level shit comment. Please take your ignorant self back to either of those platforms. The dumb American trope is overused, largely inaccurate, and tired. Steal some new material from someone more witty and try again.

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        Pretty much this. As much as l love the fediverse, there’s still way too many people on reddit giving it way too much activity, especially in gaming: two of the biggest communities I’ve frequented over the course of this year are still only active on reddit.

        Other platforms, like lemmy or discord, either have little to none activity on certain topics like the former, or are poorly designed and lackkng to allow its users to search for stuff properly like the latter.

        These days I’m much more diverse with my Internet activity, which is good, but man I wish more people just dumped reddit, especially from the communities I needed to drop it the most.

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          Hell, there’s too many people on Lemmy giving reddit too much activity. I blocked a couple of bots that were literally just yanking posts from reddit. They even left the links right back to reddit giving them the actual traffic. We can do better people. If I want shitty reddit content I would just go there.

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            These bot posts are awful for Lemmy engagement.

            People see bots posting massive amounts of content, which zero people want discuss in the comments.

            There’s a couple of instances that seem to be dedicated entirely to reposting bots. Every new person who joins Lemmy either is put off by all the bot spam without users, or they have to block several dozen bots and communities to make a usable experience.

            It’s no wonder it doesn’t grow any faster. I get the idea that we should take a cue from Reddit on this one, and curate a “new-user-friendly” set of default subscriptions for guests and new signups.

            Or maybe defederate from nom.mom to get rid of like 75% of this nonsense.

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      no, it won’t, nor will xitter of facebook. it’s delusional to think multi-billion-dollar-platforms backed by big money, the content industry and several clandestine consortiums will cease operation because a single digit percentage of users decided that some hobbyist internet platforms held together by tape and a hail marry are the future. we’ll be lucky if places like this are still around in a few years.

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      It won’t shut down. I see it more going the way of Yahoo - a once juggernaut that stumbles along a shell of its former self.

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    All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving

    I saw one that said they would stay until Reddit charges a fee to use the site…like why are they staying??? JUST FUCKING LEAVE

    One even said “there are no viable alternatives” when talking about Reddit, like excuse me what the fuck?

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      There aren’t viable alternatives. We don’t have the active niche (and not so niche) communities reddit does. And even if there was somehow a meaningful mass exodus, these little instances would break like wet toilet paper trying to hold a bowling ball.

      I don’t say this to be critical of lemmy. I’m happy here. Just being realistic.

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        Yeah we don’t need to be like reddit. I’m happy if rss usage becomes stronger . So those niche communities can stay wherever they can thrive but still be reachable through rss.

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      There are no viable Alternatives because they won’t come here, to the viable alternative. Seriously I would love to be able to go on special interest boards again but unfortunately the crowd is still on Lemmy.

      Who’s prostate do I have to massage with a rubber glove in order to get a simple conversation about Dragon Quest going on around here?

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      All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving

      I think because they are uninformed. They are looking for alternatives, and don’t know about Lemmy, or don’t understand Lemmy, etc.

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        Unfortunately, to understand lemmy is to be on lemmy. You have to be here and experience it.

        They have to make that leap of faith. There’s nothing to lose anyway, there’s no requirement to delete reddit to become a lemmy user. So what’s holding them back. Mauve they believe the anti lemmy post on reddit or maybe they just say they want to leave reddit but has no real desire to follow through.

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          But… what about my 83k karma and 13 year badge!

          Gamification is a powerful addictive force.

          When Reddit locked down their API and Boost stopped working, I forced myself to do casual browsing on chrome on my phone. It was clunky enough that I didn’t bother replying to comments, and navigation is a bit of a pain on mobile, and that was enough to ruin the game.

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        It’s exactly this, I only found lemmy through a sticky comment inside a post 2 days ago, and I’ve been wanting to get off Reddit for months

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      I’ll probably get hate, but the content just isn’t there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I’d follow on Reddit just weren’t on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it’s just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn’t much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan

      PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs

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        yeah that’s honestly what I found as well. once I discovered you can patch RIF to use your own personal api token, I’ve been continuing to use reddit. it’s such a subpar experience compared to what it used to be tho

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            It’s usable for bots and such, I’ve seen reports of some users getting banned for using it in patched clients when detected

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        Honestly that’s been a bit of a plus in the sense I’m spending much less time scrolling mindlessly on my phone. Of course I’d prefer that reduced time to be of a higher quality but the pros outweigh the cons for me

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        Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times

        I always assumed that since both upvote and downvote counters are visible, it won’t be the case. But boy I was wrong. The political/news posts are always a constant shitshow reminiscent of T_D.

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        People forget how bad reddit was when we all moved from digg.com. It was bad. It would crash every other day.

        Lemmy is far more mature than reddit was during the digg exodus.

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          I wasn’t an early adopter of Reddit, or Lemmy, but this sort of has the same issues of momentum as web browsers do. It doesn’t matter how they started. Where they are now is the standard, and that’s what you have to build to in order to be a viable replacement. With browsers it’s the capability to serve pretty much any page with all the bells and whistles, with Reddit/Lemmy it’s all the posts, comments, and user base. I think it can happen, but it won’t be easy or fast. I’m not worried, though. I think we can rely on spez to send more users this way until a suitable number of users have joined.

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        I’m a trans woman here, and to be honest change of any kind is so scary that it is unbelievable. Like when I finally got approved for hormone, the prescription stayed at the pharmacy for like 2 or 3 weeks before eventually I decided to call a friend…

        I knew that if I went myself I would probably just chicken out or maybe I’d pick them up and just put them aside somewhere, simply because I knew that there would be no going back. I didn’t even want to go back, but the fact that I couldn’t was still scary.

        But my friend made me take them right then and there, as anybody would, as he always had a good ability to talk me out of my inhibitions.

        It’s been about a decade since then and lemme tell you, life is better on two legs than three.

        Hell I had been wanting a Reddit alternative for the longest time because the place was a shit hole from the beginning, but traditional online forums are dead.

        It took a Perma ban from the whole site for me to make the switch, it’s going to come sooner or later, it’s a ban happy website it wasn’t even the first time.

        Even then I felt like a criminal on the run.

        PS: a bunch of right wing trolls have reported my account for threats of violence, simply because I said something about Star Wars that they didn’t like.

        I got a permaban, and had to write an appeal letter to get them to look at what I actually posted to realize that there was not even the slightest hint of a threat there.

        Ironically the second time was for abusing the report button, something that’s not even listed in their terms of service, because that was easier than actually looking at all of the bigoted things that I reported. I try appealing that too, but never got a response

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          I’m Trans and had no problems leaving reddit. It’s a cess pool full of bots, trolls and Rupert Murdocks goonies. Reddit would almost never side with the victim of bigotry and even punish the victim for reporting hate speech.

          It’s garbage and I been gone for months now. Used that script to change all my posts then went back later and deleted each one manually.

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      these people are the same group of people that won’t leave twitter. some people just live to be miserable and complain about things one hundred percent in their control.

      it’s insane and i can’t wrap my brain around it.

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        It seems to be human nature that people are resistant to change, and it appears that are kombat instincts from when we were monkeys that can only be satiated these days by arguing on the internet and complaining.

        You’re simply have to find a way to take the soul out of the human and put into something better. unfortunately I don’t know that Souls exist

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      Well, its a federation. So the instances that wish to be associated with such, will be. And the ones that don’t, won’t be. Your language is limited by your concept of a website. Reconsider the concept if you wish and update your language accordingly. It will make your comments more clear.

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        in the scenario I imagine, and am seeing definite signs of, the ‘federation’ will fragment into 2 camps: one that tolerates fascists and one that doesnt, and the one that tolerates them will become a new reddit except this time its not directly run by the FBI/spez etc but has the same bad habits and same bad apples

        It’ll become walled gardens. I mean, I’m not that worried easy come easy go in my view, hexbear will continue to truck along whether the lemmiverse falls to fascists or just becomes fractured due to their influence.

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      With the sheer number of @Civility@hexbear.net liberals that get mad at the existence of people more left than them in federated spaces but go out of their way to “dae both sides” justify the presence of nazis, I’d say the chances are higher than that.

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    Unfortunately, reddit has been too long and entrenched in society to “remove” it from our browsers. It is very different from Twitter or another social network. Lemmy is a great project. I hope it works and establishes itself as a real alternative, but it still has a long way to go. Unfortunately, the Reddit/Lemmy format is resource intensive, and that’s the problem with a service like this.

    It’s my simple opinion. I support any fediverso project, but reddit, today I think it is irreplaceable.

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      That’s very true!

      Thanks to the whole blackout thing and the many amazing apps that came to Lemmy (like Sync that I’m using rn and loving), Lemmy is now good enough to replace Reddit for the new content (at least in my opinion)

      But Reddit is not (or at least not only) an “what’s happening now” social network like Twitter and there is a huge amount of old content on it that can still really useful. So I guess that, in the best scenario, we’ll have Reddit and Lemmy cohexist and complement each other :)

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    I assure you that the average userbase doesn’t care about such things. (Lmao - Privacy? I got nothing to hide -type of people) As long as functionality doesn’t break massively there won’t be an exodus.

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      funnily enough whenever I point out that Privacy ≠ Secrecy in conversations like this I always get the surprised pikachu face and they (indirectly) immediately admit defeat

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    I find it fascinating that their own app can be so horrible when there are so many amazing alternatives that exist(ed)