That’s because the manager is incentivized to not help you, while the union is incentivized to help you.

Unions are game-theoretically necessary.

The fact that they have it on this blatant of a propaganda poster means that unions work.

Not necessarily.

A poster this blatant means unions are bad for management.

It doesn’t prove that unions aren’t bad for both workers and management alike. Business isn’t a zero sum game. To show that something helps workers, you need to demonstrate that it helps workers.

Which is to say, this poster is a bad argument for unions. The success of the writers strike, on the other hand, is a good argument of how unions protect workers from the bad deals management offers.

I’m not sure how you can spin to be convincing through your arguments… It’s a pretty indefensible position intellectually

This is actually part of a pretty valid strategy. The trick is to flood them with the conclusion - they don’t need to be able to recite talking points, they just need to think “a union could be troublesome”. I’d also spread stories about Union busting (not with a paper trail!) And have dozens of these posters with different, unmemorable arguments

If you convince someone “unions are bad because they have problems with corruption”, they can be sat down, shown the numbers, the transparency measures, and how members could democratically boot out leadership if things go wrong. Their concern is dispelled, and if they accept the argument they’re solidly on team union and distrustful of management.

If you flood them with weak arguments that make sense on the surface but fall apart if you think about them, they’re left with the impression of an argument against unions. They aren’t going to remember it, and if they do it’ll sound like it couldn’t be right to say it out loud, but they felt that way. And they’re smart, so they must have been convinced by a better argument they just can’t remember clearly.

This is what subliminal messaging actually looks like, this shit is evil

They suck at propaganda because the claims are unverifiable lies? That’s not really the point of propaganda. Did it scare a number of employees into voting no on a union? If yes, then they propaganda’d just fine.

I’m so glad Amazon guarantees I’m going to be cucked on wages and job security.

said no worker ever.

It’s real. Welcome to America! We rebrand the idea of slavery every 100 years or so to great success!

Dunno if this image specifically is real, but anti-union stuff is common in the US.

I worked this one job where a couple of the employees tried to unionize. It had gotten far enough where there was going to be a vote.

Well the company sent this snake woman around that personally gave almost everyone one on one talks to convince them that unions are bad and they should vote “no” on unionizing.

For some reason none of my coworkers took even a second to wonder why the company was so hell bent on getting everyone to vote “no” that they set up one on one personal meetings with some random anti-union lady.

Yeah, enough people voted “no” that we didn’t get to unionize…

The one other thing I will say that was a bit baffling was that at a prior job I was working minimum wage and it had a union where I had to pay union dues. Wtf was the union doing where I was making less than minimum wage?? Not much apparently.

Fellow French - wait until you realize their unions only apply to one company and not a whole industry so they can’t actually do anything on a large scale. This broke me.

Can’t say if this particular one is real but this definitely tracks in the USA. I’ve worked for companies that have mandatory meetings where anti union consultants will play out this kind of propaganda in real time.

In Spain it’s mandatory to have unions for companies with at least 10 employees.

People really out here thinking that if you’re a supervisor you just get like 20 years older lmao

As I said in another comment, my dues are automatically paid through my PTO account which in turn is paid into by my employer. So yeah, it’s still my money, but it’s not coming out of my paycheck at all and I honestly don’t even notice it.

At least in my area, most of your big trade unions have this as an option for members through the IBEW credit union.

I personally prefer going through the union instead of my supervisor. Less stressful for me.

It’s not always necessary to ‘go through the union’ instead of speaking with your manager. For pay, conditions and other disputes, yes, you’d want the collective bargaining of a union to get the best deal. For other things, it’s not always necessary.

I had a fall at work a couple of years ago. I fractured my ankle and was away from work until it healed and I could work again. When I returned, the problem area that lead to my fall hadn’t been looked at. I raised it with management myself and they dealt with my concerns and rectified the issue. I informed my health and safety union rep of what I was doing and he agreed to take it up if necessary. It wasn’t.

The company I work for has a long history of working with unions. They obviously have their motivations to improve efficiency and profitability but generally aren’t arseholes about it. The toxic culture I see in other companies only comes about when bosses can get away with murder because employees aren’t able to stand together.

Very major, especially because it goes both ways. Hey Manager, if you got a problem with me take it up with my union rep.

I don’t understand why everyone at corporate Amazon is fine with this. I am a white collar corporate sell out asshole and I support unions 100% of the time, full stop.

My dues are automatically paid out of my PTO account and are basically an hour’s worth of wages per month.

I don’t even notice it.

Same with

No guarantees on pay, benefits or work rules.

This is also technically true - except your union is going to collectively bargain a binding contract which gets you all those things, and prevents you from being exploited or the employer from randomly changing rules to exploit you.

AWS and Amazon are pretty separate as far as how they treat their employees.

AWS likely got the contract because not many cloud service providers are FedRAMP certified.

“Hey guys… Let’s just shut up and get back to work, right… doesn’t that sounds lit?”