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    There are too many. The other day I saw the latest flash movie. It’s the second? Third? Fourth? I don’t know because they don’t put a number and I don’t care enough. Too many stuff referenced other movies or series making watching a bit of a hassle. Is this just unknown and will be told later for making the movie interesting, or it’s because the audience is supposed to having watched 40 hours of previous works?

    If they really need to push a new superhero movie or series every 2 months, their stories should be self contained, at most separated in a trilogy. Not an infinite parallel universe constantly self referenced that needs a guide that tells you which content you need to watch and in which order.

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        Lol I’m so out of touch that only now I noticed it’s DC

        LOL that’s why there was batman at the beginning

        I was genuinely thinking it was Marvel ignoring all the references to the justice league. Like, my mind shutted off at the beginning of the movie, just watching the action but ignoring the story

        LOL i can’t believe I did such a mistake

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        This is why the whole “marvel vs DC” thing is fucking stupid. Most people don’t know or care about that difference, they just know they saw a shitty superhero movie. Better movies overall help both companies.

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      Look, I love spaghettification porn as much as the next guy, but Loki was a mess. The story was gobbldygook. I could not see any good interpretation of all the stuff about purifying non-übermensch timelines. The Wilson / Hiddleston chemistry was great, really that’s the only reason to keep watching.

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      Series one maybe, two was a bit of a mess imo. I didn’t even understand what the stakes were until everything started turning into noodles.

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    I feel like comic book movies in general, peaked. Marvel nor DC have made anything that gets close.

    I think the big reason is that marvel had to make due with it’s B and C suite of characters, after they sold the rights of to their most popular franchises, like X-Men and Spiderman. They had to step their writing game up to overcome the limited popularity of the characters.

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    But Infinity War was the better movie. Is this still up for discussion?

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      Yeah I’d say they were pretty bad and then got worse. They were agreeable movies for a diverse group at one point, even if they weren’t all Marvel-heads. The Joss Whedon style of quippy self-referencing dialogue and unlikable protagonists is their major weak point, it got old between Firefly getting cancelled and the first Marvel movie but hadn’t been overdone in pop culture yet apparently.

      An MCU sex scene:

      “That was so hot how you did that thing 3 scenes ago …I guess we’re alone now”

      “Yeah… this is the part in a movie where sex happens…”

      “I suppose if sex were going to happen, we would start like this…”

      “Yes, and then I would do this”

      (cheesy montage to an old classic)

      “Woah… so that happened.”

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      Nobody says they were masterpieces. But they were entertaining - and excellent at it as far as cheap entertainment goes -, now they’re just sad to watch. I followed it closely until No Way Home, that was my closing point. From now on, I’ll only watch Spider-Man movies because I’m a huge fan of the character. Couldn’t care less about the multiverse they’re selling

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        Would also recommend GOTG3 if you enjoyed the first two films, I’d personally say it’s my favourite of the trilogy

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          Yeah, I was worried because of how shit MCU movies have become, but James Gunn’s still got it.

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          That and No Way Home were going to be the last I was going to watch, and I’m still trying to work up the energy (?) to watch the latter. I will, eventually, I guess, but with the Spiderverse movies being A Thing, it feels pointless.

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        the multiverse they’re selling

        Oh they do be selling it that’s for sure. I haven’t checked in to Spider Man since Enter the Spiderverse, which I thought was really cool. Marvel I didn’t even like the style of the first movies, but I felt obligated to see them since I was technically part of what is now “nerd culture,” and I think a lot of us felt the same obligation to see them for nerd cred. Now they’ve just commodified it to shit and milking every drop they can out of it.

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      Marvel films are the popcorn flicks of the 2010s. None of them are masterpieces, but most are just a fun watch.

      But now they’re often not even that. Besides a few outliers (No Way Home, GOTG3), they fail to even be entertaining popcorn flicks. I’d say the line is National Treasure. If it’s better than National Treasure, that’s a solid popcorn flick. If it’s worse, then it’s not worth watching.

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        Guardians had the things I hate about MCU but was entertaining enough to be enjoyable, because they leaned in to how wacky it was I think. Rest of MCU was just done to a crisp even then.

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        National Treasure is fucking awful though.

        It’s certainly no The Mummy (Brendan and Rachel obviously, not Tom’s shitty effort that killed the whole “Dark Universe” franchise two movies in), which is about where I draw the line on popcorn guff.

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    Honestly, as far as the ensemble movies go, I personally think Marvel peaked with the first Avengers movie…

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      Hard agree. The others just don’t give any characters enough to time to do anything other than show, do a bit of fan service, and fuck off again. Endgame is a complete clusterfuck.

      The only things that have been anywhere near that good since are the Spiderman (maybe not the middle one) and Guardians of the Galaxy (James Gunn is just at home doing this stuff) movies.

      I wanted the Taika Waititi and Sam Raimi films to be a lot better than they were, and they just feel too constrained by the House of Mouse for the kind of directors they are.

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      Winter Soldier is the peak for me, with Civil War just barely below it.

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    If anything the peak was infinity wars. But tbh just finished watching s02 of loki and it’s absolutely excellent. I have tons of critique but still it’s very good.

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          Ooo I have a new fan! I’m glad you took time out of your day to manually scrape a stranger’s comment history, that’s not weird at all

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            You keep talking of me as if I was a bot, which is sort of dehumanising. And by reading your other comments I can tell you for sure that indeed I am not your fan.

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              “you’re dehumanising me” - the guy who makes personal attacks to strangers and their mothers.

              Hilarious

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    If anything the peak was infinity wars. But tbh just finished watching s02 of loki and it’s absolutely excellent. I have tons of critique but still it’s very good.

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    Endgame was stupid. The solution to Thanos was have Tony conveniently invent time traveling and then save the day. Infinity Wars was the peak.

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      You ignorant. Thanos was the hero. Ironman is just another billionaire denying the obvious responsiblity for the death of all life on earth Thanos was preventing.

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        Maybe so, but it was still a janky story. A gigantuan struggle, with epic consequences… resolved by deus ex machina.

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          It wasn’t “resolved.” Thanos won. Then some janky billionaire lying asshole undid that and then lied about fucking everything. Everyone went on like a march of idiots right over the suicidal cliff like lemmings.

          That’s not a fictional story. Goodbye! Forever!

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          Yeah, a BILLIONAIRE undoes GOOD THINGS being done by the “VILLIAN.”

          Of course it doesn’t make sense. It DOES make sense when you undo the bullshit it’s spun around. There you fucking go.

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      Infinity Wars was stupid. Have some super heroes run around fighting bad guys trying to destroy the world for some stupid reason. There was no pick. It’s all stupid.

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        I don’t know, I thought it was kind of fun that they mixed things up for a change and had the protagonist be the villain and the central plot be about his triumph over the antagonists who are the heroes; the movie ending with him relaxing and enjoying the sunset now that his great work was over and so he could retire and put down his burdens was a really nice touch.

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    Marvel peaked with the first Blade movie and it’s all been varying flavors of downhill since then. This is the truth.

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    Yes endgame was good, but fuck if people aren’t now comparing the “weekly episodes” to what was essentially the epic 2 part seaon finale.

    spoiler plus

    season 2 of Loki was as good as anything they’ve done___

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    Is this a staged joke? Is everyone here in some conspiracy to make me believe that either the world went mad or I did? Why is everyone calling every Marvel movie “peak” but the first Iron Man? Obviously, this was the best one.