I mean, I still enjoy ‘em. They ain’t perfect, but nothing is.
Meanwhile, Loki is the best MCU content to date.
Series one maybe, two was a bit of a mess imo. I didn’t even understand what the stakes were until everything started turning into noodles.
Look, I love spaghettification porn as much as the next guy, but Loki was a mess. The story was gobbldygook. I could not see any good interpretation of all the stuff about purifying non-übermensch timelines. The Wilson / Hiddleston chemistry was great, really that’s the only reason to keep watching.
Endgame was stupid. The solution to Thanos was have Tony conveniently invent time traveling and then save the day. Infinity Wars was the peak.
You ignorant. Thanos was the hero. Ironman is just another billionaire denying the obvious responsiblity for the death of all life on earth Thanos was preventing.
But that plot point was completely nonsense.
Yeah, a BILLIONAIRE undoes GOOD THINGS being done by the “VILLIAN.”
Of course it doesn’t make sense. It DOES make sense when you undo the bullshit it’s spun around. There you fucking go.
Maybe so, but it was still a janky story. A gigantuan struggle, with epic consequences… resolved by deus ex machina.
It wasn’t “resolved.” Thanos won. Then some janky billionaire lying asshole undid that and then lied about fucking everything. Everyone went on like a march of idiots right over the suicidal cliff like lemmings.
That’s not a fictional story. Goodbye! Forever!
Infinity Wars was stupid. Have some super heroes run around fighting bad guys trying to destroy the world for some stupid reason. There was no pick. It’s all stupid.
All stupid is correct.
I don’t know, I thought it was kind of fun that they mixed things up for a change and had the protagonist be the villain and the central plot be about his triumph over the antagonists who are the heroes; the movie ending with him relaxing and enjoying the sunset now that his great work was over and so he could retire and put down his burdens was a really nice touch.
The Marvels was a fun movie tho
Marvel movies have never peaked because it was a downwards slide from the start
Marvel peaked with the first Blade movie and it’s all been varying flavors of downhill since then. This is the truth.
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Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill!
Watched Blade for the first time Saturday and that line gave me whiplash.
As a teen in the 90s this was the coolest fucking fight ever! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZuZZzvJxR8
I bought the official soundtrack and listened to it on my MiniDisc every morning on the way to college! Pumped me up ready for the days battle against vampires (and maths) :D
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Honestly, as far as the ensemble movies go, I personally think Marvel peaked with the first Avengers movie…
Hard agree. The others just don’t give any characters enough to time to do anything other than show, do a bit of fan service, and fuck off again. Endgame is a complete clusterfuck.
The only things that have been anywhere near that good since are the Spiderman (maybe not the middle one) and Guardians of the Galaxy (James Gunn is just at home doing this stuff) movies.
I wanted the Taika Waititi and Sam Raimi films to be a lot better than they were, and they just feel too constrained by the House of Mouse for the kind of directors they are.
Winter Soldier is the peak for me, with Civil War just barely below it.
But Infinity War was the better movie. Is this still up for discussion?
I thought comic book movies were in decline until the Batman came out. The question is if Marvel is willing to part from their generic formula so their movies feel fresh.
Marvel needs some good direction from a management level, they need to build an Avengers team of writers who can really think of an overarching plot and have an end goal. They keep introducing new characters and then just don’t use them at all (where is Shang Chi?), their IP is spread out too much across unnecessary TV shows, they need to get their budget under control because somehow everything costs a billion, and their end product is worsened by the fact that their VFX teams are being overrun. This is Kevin Feige’s time to shine more than ever and he needs to show Disney that he can earn that pay.
Exactly. I was a big fan of the Batman, adapting the neo noir feel really helped it stand out.
Disney is kind of starting to figure this out on the star wars side with Andor and the Mandalorian. Creating unique stories with varying, structure, genre and tone. Every marvel movie just feels so generic and blends into every other, gets boring. Wanda vision had a glimmer of genius before devolving back to generic marvel meh stuff.
There are too many. The other day I saw the latest flash movie. It’s the second? Third? Fourth? I don’t know because they don’t put a number and I don’t care enough. Too many stuff referenced other movies or series making watching a bit of a hassle. Is this just unknown and will be told later for making the movie interesting, or it’s because the audience is supposed to having watched 40 hours of previous works?
If they really need to push a new superhero movie or series every 2 months, their stories should be self contained, at most separated in a trilogy. Not an infinite parallel universe constantly self referenced that needs a guide that tells you which content you need to watch and in which order.
The Flash is not MCU. The rest is true.
Lol I’m so out of touch that only now I noticed it’s DC
LOL that’s why there was batman at the beginning
I was genuinely thinking it was Marvel ignoring all the references to the justice league. Like, my mind shutted off at the beginning of the movie, just watching the action but ignoring the story
LOL i can’t believe I did such a mistake
This is why the whole “marvel vs DC” thing is fucking stupid. Most people don’t know or care about that difference, they just know they saw a shitty superhero movie. Better movies overall help both companies.
Endgame was a 3 hour fan service and wasn’t all that good and I’ll die on that hill.
Less of a hill and more of a well constructed 15th century fortress with about 100 loyal defenders at your service.
I’m still pissed that the McGuffin in that movie was basic-ass time travel, when they had the way cooler McGuffin of the Quantum Realm they could have explored.
To make matters even worse, it’s seeming like the real reason they did the time travel BS was so they could start the multiverse BS, so they had a justification to continue pumping out garbage content.
I’m so sick of time travel
It’s also just a bad time travel movie because the purpose of it was to be appeal to self-contained nostalgia. Like, “hey, remember all these OTHER movies you saw that built up to this one? Well, they’re going to revisit these in minor, superficial ways at the very end of our huge event.” Yeah, dog, I don’t care about those movies anymore and they weren’t very entertaining to begin with. Just get to the ball numbing action violence.
Completely agree! Though time travel wasn’t a MacGuffin, it was just a plot contrivance. A Macguffin is an interchangeable irrelavent object used to drive the motivation for the plot. The “tesseract” in Avengers, or the “Philosopher/Sorcerer’s Stone” in Harry Potter for example.
Sorry to be pedantic, I fully agree with your actual point, and just thought you might want to know.
Lol thank you, I genuinely appreciate the pedantry
Maybe you’re just older because they weren’t good to begin with
Yeah I’d say they were pretty bad and then got worse. They were agreeable movies for a diverse group at one point, even if they weren’t all Marvel-heads. The Joss Whedon style of quippy self-referencing dialogue and unlikable protagonists is their major weak point, it got old between Firefly getting cancelled and the first Marvel movie but hadn’t been overdone in pop culture yet apparently.
An MCU sex scene:
“That was so hot how you did that thing 3 scenes ago …I guess we’re alone now”
“Yeah… this is the part in a movie where sex happens…”
“I suppose if sex were going to happen, we would start like this…”
“Yes, and then I would do this”
(cheesy montage to an old classic)
“Woah… so that happened.”
Nah, the first Iron Man still holds up well.
Marvel films are the popcorn flicks of the 2010s. None of them are masterpieces, but most are just a fun watch.
But now they’re often not even that. Besides a few outliers (No Way Home, GOTG3), they fail to even be entertaining popcorn flicks. I’d say the line is National Treasure. If it’s better than National Treasure, that’s a solid popcorn flick. If it’s worse, then it’s not worth watching.
Guardians had the things I hate about MCU but was entertaining enough to be enjoyable, because they leaned in to how wacky it was I think. Rest of MCU was just done to a crisp even then.
National Treasure is fucking awful though.
It’s certainly no The Mummy (Brendan and Rachel obviously, not Tom’s shitty effort that killed the whole “Dark Universe” franchise two movies in), which is about where I draw the line on popcorn guff.
You mean the 1999 cinematic masterpiece, The Mummy, with Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz?
Not a movie, but both seasons of Loki were also good.
Nobody says they were masterpieces. But they were entertaining - and excellent at it as far as cheap entertainment goes -, now they’re just sad to watch. I followed it closely until No Way Home, that was my closing point. From now on, I’ll only watch Spider-Man movies because I’m a huge fan of the character. Couldn’t care less about the multiverse they’re selling
Would also recommend GOTG3 if you enjoyed the first two films, I’d personally say it’s my favourite of the trilogy
Yeah, I was worried because of how shit MCU movies have become, but James Gunn’s still got it.
That and No Way Home were going to be the last I was going to watch, and I’m still trying to work up the energy (?) to watch the latter. I will, eventually, I guess, but with the Spiderverse movies being A Thing, it feels pointless.
the multiverse they’re selling
Oh they do be selling it that’s for sure. I haven’t checked in to Spider Man since Enter the Spiderverse, which I thought was really cool. Marvel I didn’t even like the style of the first movies, but I felt obligated to see them since I was technically part of what is now “nerd culture,” and I think a lot of us felt the same obligation to see them for nerd cred. Now they’ve just commodified it to shit and milking every drop they can out of it.
Ma…ma… Marvel movies are mostly redundant bullshit without even a single relevant thought in them. Just like these mass-produced romcoms, same level. They will probably be the first movies written and produced by inferior AI soon and it won’t even make a big difference.
They will probably be the first movies written and produced by inferior AI soon and it won’t even make a big difference.
While watching Quantummania I already had a feeling that the entire script was written by ChatGPT.
MCU are just superhero Hallmark movies
They were never good you just had dogshit standards.
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
Yup, I would have worded it differently but I second this
I get that alot 😄
If anything the peak was infinity wars. But tbh just finished watching s02 of loki and it’s absolutely excellent. I have tons of critique but still it’s very good.
