cross-posted from: https://lemmy.whynotdrs.org/post/494473
Compared against the predominant incumbent social media platforms, the fediverse is very small.
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What about Pinterest? Laugh all you want but they have more users than Twitter and healthy growth, to the point where they may eventually overtake Reddit.
God I hate Pinterest.
Not only do they steal pictures in bad quality from other sites and write their website in such a way to always come out on top of search results, it also takes multiple seconds to close the webpage.
: pours one out for every dude that had a GF that lost herself to a Pinterest Interest wall: (or vice versa)
man I wish they’d keep pintrest out of google image search. yeah I know I can manually exclude their url from search but why is it there in the first place lol useless for finding reference material
My wife uses Pinterest any time she needs a list with pictures - things like recipes (organized by type - dinner meals, breakfasts, cakes, etc), outfit/clothing ideas, inspiration for projects around the house, etc. I’ve got lists in Google Keep and links in Pinboard.in but she’s a very visual thinker and prefers having pictures.
Snap is still alive? I haven’t heard name in quite a while.
Wow! Wonder if Facebook will dissapear as quickly as MySpace
Quickly? Granted, it was over a decade ago, but it took 6-8 years for Myspace to die proper , by my recollection.
I still wish I could bop over there and check in on bands that probably imploded a decade ago.
There’s some merit to whether those daily active accounts are people, and the quality of the folks engaged as those accounts.
Twitter has more users, and a lot of static too, like people posting pictures of their paninis. I’m also sure there’s a large percentage of automated/bot accounts on Twitter; they’re active, but not posting anything you’ll care about. Same goes for Facebook and Reddit… There’s more but I’ll stop there. I’m sure you all get the picture.
Fact is, you can have 5 billion daily active user accounts, and still have very little content anyone cares about. A nontrivial number of posts are news updates either from media outlets or business accounts/companies that are simply a mass posted and shortened version of some PR message or something with a link to the information. Simply bringing the information to people where they are, no matter how few on Twitter or FB are actually reading what they post.
I feel like Lemmy has a lot of content because the majority of accounts are real people, so there’s a better capability for discussion. It may be fewer overall people, by comparison, but it is, in many ways, more valuable and entertaining.
IDK, I’m just some guy.
I see a lot of posts that are bot reposts with zero engagement. Maybe I need to find a better instance.
I’m on Lemmy.ca, and the “all” view shows all kinds of various instances. Most commonly Lemmy.world but others too.
It’s all federated. Unless your instance is defederated then you should have access to everything that Lemmy has to offer. You just need to find how to access it.
start blocking users and communities you don’t care about, or you can auto-ignore bot users in your profile; both options should help you out quickly.
For the biggest ones: How many of those active users are bots, advertisers, and scammers? I’d guess about half on Facebook.
Also, is it considered “active” if you have a dormant account but have the app installed on your phone and it still watches what you’re doing? What if you only use it to communicate with family because it’s the only internet they understand?
Further, what about duplicate accounts or “secretive” secondary accounts so you can click on the depraved stuff you like without that showing in your public feed?
I feel like the real numbers for the big ones are massively inflated by issues like these.
The Fediverse is small enough to as of yet not be affected. Once it gets large enough, it will have all of this, too.
Also, is it considered “active” if you have a dormant account but have the app installed on your phone and it still watches what you’re doing?
Almost all platforms use “monthly active users” - anyone that uses it at least once per month is considered an active user. If you have an app installed but don’t use it, it doesn’t count. Some platforms also provide a daily active users metric.
There is an interesting, and almost universal phenomenon on reddit that every time a subreddit gets past about 40,000 subscribers, the discussion quality immediately drops off a cliff, unless extremely harsh moderation policies are implemented to explicitly weed out low effort content which brings its own set of problems.
My theory on why this occurs is the scaling power of moderation. I think you computer people are probably very familiar with the concept of scalability, and that size is its own challenge at the hyperscale. So for a centralized system like Twitter or Instagram or Facebook, moderation can only scale vertically, so a huge moderation team is needed to contend with the scale of these platforms alone, which also forces the need of personalized recommendation algorithms to promote this that are actually interesting to individual users.
Reddit was able to partially avoid this phenomenon with the subreddit system, which means everyone was able to effectively manage their own, smaller subgroups who shares common interest without intervention from the site admin/mods to achieve a form of pseudo-horizontal scaling. You can also see the success of that with Facebook Groups, which are one of the few reasons why people still use Facebook for social media even though they do not want to interact with the current Facebook audience.
Lemmy, and the rest of the fediverse platforms would suffer the problems even less, as now every group admin can now be completely independent from one another, which means that real horizontal scaling can be achieved and hopefully preserving the discussion quality to a degree as it grows.
great comment!
i tend to agree. i think the fediverse is probably the best model moving forward. it is a challenging problem!
So Facebook is:
Boring Full of bots Soulless
An we are:
Real people mostly Engaged A cute little dot!
Like someone said, 1,5M people are enough for me, specially if they are mostly active and it seems they are. Are they stats for mean user activity?
Quality > quantity.
The masses have been duped into forgetting that.
Not being able to scroll recycled content all day has been hugely detrimental to me. I’ve actually started reading books again. BOOKS.
Same. It’s amazing how much time I have when the algorithm isn’t shoving me endless content, trying to keep me engaged.
Really shows how everyone has been addicted to social media, myself included.
I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine how you bear it
When I saw that number I was pleasantly surprised.
Surprised to see LinkedIn’s 930 million MAU! I might have heard someone mention it irl like 2 times my whole life? But maybe that’s cuz I’m not in the job market yet.
It has different aspects to it. Big part of it is job hunters i believe, but i use it mostly for promotion of my research, discussion with other researchers, policy discussions and following conferences / webinars and news about climate related stuff. I use it daily.
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we really need to stop calling it formerly Twitter and just call it Shitter.
he ruined the platform, the people can ruin a name
Xitter
Slowly and steadily. This platform has potential.
Surprised a boring platform like LinkedIn has that many users.
Fuck LinkedIn. It’s just gross, my feed is just full of shilling.
It’s pretty important career-wise, suggest this video if you’re interested.
I, too, have a profile on LinkedIn, doesn’t mean I use it more often than once a month or something, just to check up on notifications
There’s no way reddit has more “real” users than Twitter // X. Maybe with bots but half the shit on reddit is a Twitter screen cap or repost.
Not to mention a supermajority of reddit users are inactive. Recap has shown that even with minimal activity, you end up in the top 1% of reddit users.
That means reddit has roughly 5 million active users. Meanwhile nearly every person that creates a lemmy account, is active too.
I suppose this is related to your “users are inactive” point but I also feel like it’s more common on Reddit to have multiple/alt accounts. Hell, in my time on Reddit I think I made 7+ accounts.
Why? I feel like that would be more common on Lemmy than anything. There is an actual point in using different instances here, I don’t see any point whatsoever on Reddit.
To keep your interests separate, to prevent doxing, to break up your post history, etc.
That’s a strange read on Reddit. I’ve heard people say this before, and it’s baffling.
Reddit is, and always has been, a link aggregator first and foremost. Of course it’s reposts and screenshots of others sites. That’s kind of the point. To bring you Twitter so you don’t have to actually be on twitter.
Is YouTube a socmed site?
I would answer that with yes, because it has (video)posts, comments, likes, follows etc.
but i agree that it’s an edge case, because many aren’t using it like social media
It used to be a lot more. You were able to add friends, and video replies appeared at the bottom of the video. Old YouTube legit felt like a community of people.
Makes me wonder how they count “active users”. Is watching a video active or just when you comment?
Does it allow you to be social and participate in conversations?
So yes.
