For me Lemmy provides a value proposition that reddit does not: consent.
Care to explain? Reddit users also signed up and agreed to their terms & conditions.
Replacing “Lemmy” with “Fedderverse” would behoove you, OP. Sincerely, A Kbin user.
Ernest has fixed a whole lot of the issues today, but I wouldn’t recommend kbin at the exact moment, lol. Not that these issues have made me feel like going anywhere else.
What do you recommend then?
Who runs Lemmy?
Who runs the instance you would recommend?
In Ernest I trust. Kbin is a groovy way to consume the federverse. Just like Lemmy et al.
But a little more the instance that Ernest runs…
I don’t recommend anything. I just personally wouldn’t invite anyone to kbin right now because they’d likely be frustrated. Next week it’ll likely be fine.
It’s been pretty solid aside from the last few days and the last few days straddled a major, worldwide holiday. I think we should be able to give Ernest a break over it. Yes, we’re small. But he got on fixing it just as soon as the problem was identified and New Years had passed.
Lemmy its not just CCP propaganda anymore (sorry wumao)
The Fediverse feels a lot like the old Reddit from 10+ years ago , but I suspect that once it becomes mainstream the shills and bots will move in and ruin it like they ruined Reddit.
Seeing the growth…so work has gone into this!
I’m concerned with the amount of bugs cropping up between major updates. I looked at the repo and they have no unit tests. Eventually people will get fed up with the amount of bugs appearing.
Lemmy still feels like beta (while Kbin is alpha), but it still is better than Reddit!
(no /s - I really believe that, b/c the people here vs. there make ALL the difference)
To all those who contribute code, thank you for making this micro-world a better place for us all!:-)
Which repo are you talking about? There are tests in the main rust repo. Rust puts its tests in line with the code. https://github.com/search?q=repo%3ALemmyNet%2Flemmy "%23[cfg(test)]"&type=code
I have no idea how complete these or or anything. But it’s not 0
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“Some tests in the backend” would instantly get you fired from some companies. Lack of tests is a symptom of the programmers not being as experienced as they should be, when making a platform such as this.
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I use a third party app and see very little. Over time it’ll get better also.
there were other options?
There is Kbin:-)
Hello from /Kbin
I love kbin but being a one man show and lacking API it was never really going to be the replacement. I am, however, glad to have it as one of a handful of smaller alternatives and a sort of cousin to Lemmy.
If it doesn’t have an API, how do I still see posts from it in my feed? Do you mean it integrates with the fediverse, but only has a web interface for now (ie. no apps)?
Yeah, the latter. There is an API, but I think it was only released in the last month or so. I’m not sure to what extent it’s complete.
A kbin instance can be downloaded as a PWA, and it works decent.
As for third party apps there’s Lunar, iOS only. Haven’t tried it.
There was also Artemis. It had the best UI/UX design I’ve ever seen. Unfortunately the dev appears to have vanished.
Before the API, I think they were web scraping.
It has an API, has for a while now
Takkun?
Kbin is just lemmy+mastadon iirc
When I was leaving Reddit I heard of Kbin (which I do have an account in and still check all the time), raddle.me, Tildes, squabbles, and I think another. So many!
During the exodus I remember I wanted to try Tildes, but it was closed off from new users. (I don’t even understand why it was recommended.)
One that I don’t hear about is raddle.me, a centralized alternative.
I tried it but the mods were huffy
To the people who want Lemmy to be more active, if you want that, you have to be part of it.
The internet adage is that on any forum 10% of users comment, and 1% post. Lemmy needs to break out of that paradigm, and users should be disproportionately active compared to user/activity on Reddit.
People like posting in places where other people are already posting. It’s a snowball effect. That’s why meme communities have managed to take off; the 1% of users can pump out a huge amount of memes in a short time and make the place feel more lively than it actually is, which in turn kickstarts it and makes it lively for memes.
I make posts mostly in non-meme communities because I think Lemmy should have that too. Some posts are just links but a lot of them are original content. I think it adds value but I simply cannot, as one person, post the kind of volume that memeposters can. These more niche communities need people to post.
If you are subscribed to an interest community, I strongly encourage posting new threads there.
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I mean the sentiment in the comments in that thread is not at all positive. The damage the tankies/hexbear/lemmygrad has done to the reputation of lemmy is not negligible.
imho It’s important to help people stear away from those places when they join lemmy except if that is their intention.
Lemmy went stronger when center-left people joined the platform. .ml and Lemmygrad will remain far-left. There are many server available to suit their needs. I was once on .ml until I joined the server set by people who were active on r/piracy before.
If the fediverse sucks so much, why are Meta and WordPress and Mozilla making efforts to join it, hm?
Yes but, monetization of data and sucking balls can be orthogonal pursuits
I understand this comm is about Reddit… But you guys really need to just let it go already. You put so much effort into “owning” Reddit it’s actually kinda sad.
Don’t spend seven months talking about your ex.
This is par for the course though. We shit on Digg for years after everyone had migrated over!
Honestly, there’s a reason hype has died down. The site has all the same problems as other alternatives.
After the initial hype, it’s only as big as a reasonably large individual subreddit. In fact, here are the top weekly posts of lemmy’s federation partners and T_D’s exodus site. The latter edges out the former slightly in upvotes and much more substantially in comments, and it’s just a single community. Even in the fairly small category of “biggest extant reddit alternative”, lemmy doesn’t take first prize.
Same content problem as all the others: roughly half of the posts are politics of a uniform orientation, and the other half are reposted facebook memes.
Reddit’s killer app is the presence of a sizable community for every little niche thing, and that’s not there. Unless your only interests are politics (within roughly .3 standard deviations of the median Huffpo writer) or Facebook memes, it’s not a viable alternative.
Competition: Sure, it’s federated in theory, but the block-happy, drama-centric culture means that, if an alternative were to pop up with the userbase of 2012 Reddit (or even 2018 Reddit), it’d get defederated almost immediately. Open federation solves the “dozens of sites competing for the same thousand-or-so people” problem. Closed federation just pretends to do so.
This is basically all the same issue: not enough users. It’s so dumb. “Lemmy isn’t as good as Reddit because everyone isn’t there yet. But ya, Reddit sucks.” /face-palm Then come over and get users to come over instead of saying there’s bit enough people.
Hey, it’s not all politics! Star Trek is doing great here! I just saw a post about how the Bell Riots are going to…wait…
Lemmy right now actually feels like it’s the same size as when I started using Reddit, before the Digg migration. It was so much better then.
well it doesnt necessarily need to be politics, the biggest subgroup for lemmy users are usually people into tech (a lot of tech and tech adjacent communities are fairly sized on lemmy) as they are the ones more likely to make the jump. Easiest way to tell is to go to the communities page, sort by all communities and count the number, or even just get an eyeballs search to know that a common thread between many communities is either memes or tech
Politics? What politics?
The fact that the Lemmy devs, who also host Lemmygrad & Lemmy.ml, are Tankies.
Still on that yet? Move on dude, the commies instances are blocked by everyone, it is not like they even exist.
username checks out I guess.
That’s bullshit and you know it. Lemmy.ml is blocked by almost no one. I also see hexbear and Lemmygrad when I sort by New.
All the devs or a few of them?
Lemmy is like 1/2 of what reddit was able to do for me. I haven’t gone back to reddit since the exodus, I deleted all my posts and my account and never went back. But even now when I need information on anything from a community it’s always reddit that pops up with the information that I need. I understand this is because of userbase and interacting with it but lemmy has not been able to do that effectively yet.
Granted I did post about a fish for my fishtank here and it was answered actually pretty quickly.
I think I’m just not understanding what instances and the feddiverse is. Most posts I’m interested in have like 1 or 2 comments, and half the time they’re not useful interactions. It just feels kind of dead here. And again I understand it’s because of the lack of interaction and userbase. But to say it’s better than reddit or the best alternative is being a little frivolous.
While Lemmy is gradually growing and the whole federation is a pretty good concept too I have one question about lemmy and it’s future.
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Since it’s just two devs maintaining the whole project (I know there are many open source contributors but the project is on them right?) what if they get tired of the project or go MIA? Can a fork be made and that can be maintained as a replacement of lemmy?
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How are and will be the SEO of the lemmy’s instances? Reddit reached a wide audience due to that. It’s nice to have a niche set of audience at the start but that should not be the case forever right?
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