It was like this in the late 90s…early 2000s, late 2000s,early 2010s…late 2010s…early 2020s…fuck
I mean, it’s unavoidable. Everyone draws their own line in the sand based on what they think is “right” and “wrong”, using whatever best tools and ideas are available to them, picked from the avalanche of options.
The line will not stay put from generation to generation, that’s not a reasonable thing to ask for. If we go back 50 years when tv was king, it’s not like all the tv shows were equally good, or stayed good.
So, it’s kinda just on us to seek out and pick the right things to support, and be prepared in case those change too. It’s kinda the whole reason I’m personally here on the Fediverse. I mean, back in the stone age our ancestors had to do the same things, its not like their environments always just stayed perfect. If something changes and you don’t want to starve to death, you gotta just do something. Can’t just wish it away.
Death is unavoidable.
Doesn’t mean I stand in a ditch waiting to die.
I’ll rage against the dying light thank you very much.
I wasn’t saying it was actually, genuinely unavoidable. They need customers. Without customers, they shift or die out.
edit to elaborate on what I meant. I realize I spoke in error.
I’ve heard something to the effect that approximately 80% of all internet traffic passes through Facebook and Google. Unfortunately I can’t find anything to substantiate that claim but it’s sounds plausible.
I remember the early internet. It was a wild place but at least it was fair and balanced. Now every click on every page is designed to serve the for profit attention economy. Kinda sucks in comparison.
Honestly, I just use the internet less. I’m never going to pay. I can’t be bothered with the loopholes anymore. If it bugs me to pay or subscribe, I leave. I’m fine with them not wanting me as a user, and I hope they’re fine with me not wanting them as a supplier. They don’t have anything that I actually need that badly.
Oddly enough I probably use the internet more than ever. It’s just not that internet.
Weirdly, the only parts of the Internet that I’m really liking these days are Hacker News, Lemmy and the one part that I do pay for, which is Kagi Ultimate. It is very refreshing not to be the product and I do occasionally need to use a search engine for something.
Kagi AstroTurfing needs to stop… Fuck off.
People genuinely like Kagi. I dont really see the problem
I doubt 1% of the comments are genuine users and not themselves botting/faking comments just to inject advertising.
Thats just downright conspiratorial
SearxNG. FOSS, selfhostable. Don’t pay for a search engine.
Unfortunately it piggybacks of googles and co’s indexing. What happens if we succeed as a FOSS movement and google goes under?
Yeah YouTube brings me a ton of value and I wouldn’t mind paying a bit for it.
Not $14 a month though.
I’m so done with “browsing” YouTube. I also hardly ever click the links anymore when people post them here, and that is because of the ads.
There are some good channels that I occasionally checkout whenever I’m really bored, and I absolutely don’t mind them getting the ad revenue like any other free tv show, but it’s nothing that I can’t do without.
In my opinion, good YT channels who make quality content ought to apply for other mean of distribution that doesn’t scare away viewers. Let’s say that f.i. Numberphile, Veritasium or Primitive Technology were on Netflix or even Disney+, I’d prefer to watch it there. That’s how bad YouTube is.
If YouTube managed to get part of the all-in deals that I have on the other “real” streaming services, then they’d get some fraction of whatever my cellphone carrier pays to those. Right now I just don’t want to bother with it.
If youtube was a reasonable price I’d pay it. But being google, they not only charge a ridiculous price, but even if you pay that, they’ll STILL sell your data on top.
Furthermore, it being a public company no profit will ever be enough. It doesn’t matter if I paid 30$ a month, the next quarter the 30 billion profit won’t be enough because it didn’t grow from the previous quarter…
Fuck all that.
And if you buy any hardware from Google, count on it being discontinued and unsupported within a year. Anyone who continues to buy shit from Google is either deluded or a fool, or both.
I got a Pixel 5a refurbished because it’s supported by LineageOS. Like a week after buying it I dropped it, cracking the screen. Got on iFixit, ordered a replacement screen, and once it got here spent an evening installing it. No regrets. But I am a fool, so that tracks.
My next phone will be a Fairphone now that they work with US carriers, though.
Google fanboys are just as stupid as Apple fanboys. It’s like watching two morons fight each other. These mega corps give no fucks about you.
oh, i’m totally over it. it’s so liberating to not care about their shitty little digital hell they’ve created. this and discord are literally the only places I interact with people on the internet.
Meanwhile, I’m enjoying the peaceful bliss of Memmy loading everything in reader mode
Every time I feel this way, I take one more step to getting rid of one of the offending parties.
I’m like 50% off gmail (proton mail rules), 100% off gdrive/google maps, all in on libre office, proton VPN, little snitch, and about to boot linux onto one of my old MBPro‘s so I can start transitioning over to using Linux as a daily driver. I’m new to it but I’m decently tech savvy so I think I can find a distro that is a decent balance of privacy, control, but still user-friendly.
The list goes on, and a lot needs to be done, but my experience at my computer and online in general has been slowly improving over the last year or two since I’ve gotten more aggressive about it. Also leaving Reddit helped lol
Yeah.
And we can still block entire sites on the web.
The sites the friends with adblockers promote.
The friends who don’t notice what they promote.
What unholy bastards the people who own the sites they promote are.
Time to go Amish ig
Just go Fedish instead.
I haven’t noticed any slowdowns with Firefox and Ublock Origin.
I’ve noticed YT seems to be loading a bit slower than normal, but it still takes less than a few seconds so I don’t really mind.
You’re lucky. I run FF and uBlock and get the pause sometimes. Still better than using YT without uBlock, though.
I take a 2min pause of silence over 30 seconds of ads any day.
I got a popup “Adblockers are not allowed on YouTube” on Firefox running both Ublock Origin and Adblock, not signed in two days ago. I don’t know what to do with that information.
both Ublock Origin and Adblock
That’s the problem.
I thought you weren’t supposed to use uBO with Adblock?
This may be true but I have not seen it before. Do you have a source?
I may have hallucinated this, but I could have sworn that gorhill said something to this effect, but now I can’t find it.
I’ll keep looking. I genuinely could be wrong.
I don’t have a source either, but I can confirm having heard the same advice.
In general, even if uBO has been updated to avoid Youtube’s adblocker-detection, if you’re running multiple adblockers it’s possible the popup is triggering because it detects the other one.
More to the point, (a) you shouldn’t need another adblock alongside uBlock Origin anyway, and (b) pretty much every ad-blocker other than uBO has sold out and been compromised, including Adblock, so using it is a bad idea to begin with.
It was something he posted on Twitter: https://nitter.net/gorhill/status/1033706103782170625
I was checking github, which is why I couldn’t find it.
Thank you, I appreciate this.
Never combine adblockers. ONLY use Ublock Origin.
In the UBlock plugin settings, click update cache. On mobile so CBA to give better instructions, but it will fix it
thx
Bad idea, won’t help. Above commenter says they have adblock enabled alongside uBO- that needs to be fixed first. Adblock is tripping YouTube, not uBO
I had a moment of mild panic two days ago when purging and updating the cache didn’t work. It turns out I got caught by it in the short interval after Youtube deployed the new attack but before the blocklist maintainers deployed a countermeasure, and it worked when I tried again an hour or so later. (Using Freetube instead of a browser worked in the meantime, BTW.)
And if it does slow down, I’m downloading the whole video before watching it.
My next plan will probably be switching to my Linux computer, then just downloading the video. That sucks for me though b/c I enjoy a live show I subscribe to.
Ads, on a live show I pay to watch, WTF? I keep the chat open in Chrome but leave the video muted and laugh at how far behind the video becomes after ads start popping up.
Next January, I’m gonna figure out gaming on Ubuntu so I can get ahead of support ending for Windows 10.
I’ll probably run that copy of Windows in a VM JUST so I can use Excel. I use Excel at home for lots of stuff, particularly my personal budget, which has this really big macro I wrote from scratch that I really don’t want to give up. I’ve had the same copy of Office 2010 for >10 years now. It’s where Office peaked.
I’m choosing Ubuntu because of familiarity. I’ve been using it on old laptops since 12.10.
Proton GE edition should get your games going. Works for me so far!
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True and very annoying in the same time! The web is ruined :(
It’s time for a new Internet with some guidelines. Like your content isn’t viewable without account, you get kicked out of the DNS.
It’s gotta be less general than that; I don’t want my bank account on the open web for example.
You want a bank BBS?
Ha! Recently went to breakfast with a couple of new neighbors (partners).
They were asking me what apps I enjoyed and I told them that I WAS enjoying Apollo. Told them I left Reddit. They sort looked at me. They later said they both worked at home. Their job was creating ad space for the web. One of them gave me the enshitification face. Sigh.
What is “the enshitification face”
I can only imagine horrible things
It was sort of like you caught me eating my shit cereal face. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
What is “the enshitification face”
maybe one of these?
Definitely the first one, with the dollar signs.
They would have regretted asking me this. They’d be opening an F-droid can of worms they couldn’t stop and my autistic ass wouldn’t be able to gauge if it made them uncomfortable.
Recently went to breakfast with a couple of new neighbors (partners). They were asking me what apps I enjoyed and I told them that I WAS enjoying Apollo.
Lol at first I interpreted this as the waiter asking you what appetizers you wanted
Use Ublock Origin and you’ll be fine.
Not to mention sites blacklisting VPN IPs
Try making an account without any of the 3 “approved” email addresses ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
What are the 3? Gmail, Yahoo, AOL?
Microsoft (Outlook/Live/Hotmail) instead of AOL
I’ve never had a single issue with protonmail
I haven’t either, but then there are a lot of popular sites I don’t use because they require an account.
“you’re using a sub domain, get out of here you terrorist!”
my own site for my very small business gets about 10 legit visitors a week, none of which have ever connected via a known vpn address (dating back some 15 years). another 100 page views a week on average from legit bots (msn, google, etc).
the rest (and well over 95% of overall traffic) is bots, scrapers, and hackers, many of which use addresses linked to vpn services and pound the sites on the server looking for exploitable scripts (wordpress related, usually; which we’ve never run here), login and contact forms. if i could simply ‘flip a switch’ and redirect all vpn traffic to a separate landing page, i would seriously consider doing so. it wouldn’t affect site availability to our legit users and our target audience. but for now, mod_security is doing a stellar job and is the mvp.
I just don’t look at it if I have to make an account.
I have told my wife and several of my friends stop sending me things from ________, ________, and _________. I can’t see them and I refuse to do what is required.
just ask them to send a screenshot
My thought exactly, and I don’t feel like missing out either
Which is 100% fine by them.
They’ve created a situation where we HAVE to use ad-blockers for security, so they instead have to sell our data.
If they can’t make money off ads OR selling our data AND we won’t pay to view the content, all we’re really doing is using up their bandwidth.
You’re missing nothing on Instagram.
Disagree. There are many amazing creators on the app creating beautiful art and music.
Same. Those sites simply don’t exist to me. If it’s so important that I see it, then copy/paste the content.
Right? If your message is important, then set it free. If it’s not, then I’m not gonna care.
It’s like they’re trying to show you a party that’s going on in some private location, but you don’t get in, because you don’t have an account. Well then, they say, if the account is free and you still don’t make it, it’s not our fault. So they close you out.
You telling them to “just copy and paste the content” is like telling them to send you a photo/video of the party. It’s not the same as being there.
Yep, whenever people text me an Instagram or TikTok URL, I just scroll past it. I don’t even bother to find out what it’s supposed to be about, it’s completely inconsequential to me.
