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    Americans are so soft. You throw shade at the Europeans by making fun of their food or wine or streets or whatever. They take a shot back and you guys whine.

    Take a shot back instead of flipping the table.

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      You can’t even prove that’s true about a majority of Americans yet you talk about it like it’s fact

      Also I like how you equate memes on bad food/wine/infrastructure to the memes of school shootings and mass death. Totally tit for tat right?

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      As an American I don’t know what you’re talking about, aside from the UK most of Europe has amazing food, and the wine there is so much better and cheaper

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        Fight me and my bad dentistry you overweight, stetson wearing, language butchering, gun touting redneck.

        The UK has a Michelin star restaurant for every 360k people, the US has one for every 1.5million people.

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          It’s probably better to look at the distribution of Michelin stars in major city centers since you guys are only about 20% the size of our population (edit: and about 25% of our land area).

          For instance:

          Population of London = 8.982 million Amount of Michelin stars in London = 71 Amount of people per star = 126,507

          Population of New York City = 8.468 million Amount of Michelin stars in NYC = 72 Amount of people per star = 117,611

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        And the streets are better too?? IDK what OP is on. Like everyone talks about how European streets are more walkable, bikable and whatnot

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      Americans: “Your accent is funny and your food is bland.”
      Europeans: “Well at least children aren’t dying in our schools. At least we don’t see street memorials on television every other week. Haha, owned.”
      Americans: “…”
      Europeans: “See it’s funny because people are dying and voters are powerless to stop it”
      Americans: “What the hell man”
      Europeans: “Wow, you guys should seriously get some thicker skin”

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        You are not powerless to stop it. Who is telling you this and why do you believe it? Your group is much, much bigger than the one who fucks everything up. Go out and show them! Nobody is telling you to get thicker skin, they’re telling you to get off your ass and get angry about it.

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          Nobody apart from the guy I’m replying to, of course.

          And everyone who downvoted my comment.

          And for the record we’ve been voting. We’ve been protesting. We’ve been trying to get the rules changed and we’re getting stonewalled by the 50% of the population who only listen to media that makes up reasons for them to hate things that would be good for the masses because it would be bad for a few people at the top and I’m sick to fucking death of people making fun of us for not trying hard enough and treating actual dying children as some sort of own.

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    I’m from Asia and honestly it’s really tiring to hear people keep making fun of Americans.

    It was never funny to bring up shit like children fucking dying from school shootings in a snarky comment, and I think any reasonable person with actual, genuine concern for the world’s problems understands that if all we had to do was give, everyone would well have fucking received already.

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      As an American, we can laugh at tragedy sometimes.

      For example, that my 7yos phone was probably made by people younger than him. And one of those kids probably killed themselves jumping off a factory building so my kid could be safe from a school shooting.

      See? Absolutely hysterical.

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    I have a solution for the gun violence problem in schools. Print simple steps on common causes and solutions to the underlying social and mental contributors. Put these up in every door, hallway and classroom in every schools. Then these poor misguided kids would have troubleshooting.

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    every society in the world is falling apart So it takes the edge off by mocking other countries.

    except for those more civilized people up in the Nordic regions. they’re doing good with the whole Utopian human rights thing.

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      And shit trains, and pointless poverty, and ridiculous town planning, and an absurd prison system, and shit voting and representation, and unlimited money in politics, and weak-sauce unions…

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    Americans mentioning Europeans seem to want to blow themselves up at the drop of a hat.

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    Why Americans are suddenly so touchy about their school shootings, obesity and healthcare?

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      Cause they just realized that they do have a problem, its not normal and they internally feel like there is nothing to do to change it.

      It’s the Anger stage

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        Sadly only the tiny part actually interacting with foreigners online realize this and even they react with anger.

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      Imagine justifiably criticising a bad trait that someone has in the hopes of having them improve

      Most people are going to take that as a threat because they hold that trait deer to them and / or view it as a part of a themselves

      americans are likely viewing the criticism as a threat to themselves and their country and are responding with emotionally fueled responses instead of logic based responses

      americans should learn to meditate because it can help with the issue of wanting to respond to percived threats emotionally

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        You’re speaking pretty large for an American for not being a school shooter yourself

        But as an American who meditates, that is not the answer lol.

        We have a bigger issue with the media trying to make us feel like everything outside is scary first. A lot of fear mongering to keep the scared gun owners to buy and advocate for more until a mentally deranged one goes too far and ruins it for everyone else. The media can now sensationalize that shooting and you get either people buying more guns or people advocating for no guns and neither side wants to hear each other anymore. It’s one big crazy chain reaction loop we’re stuck in and the politicians got the crazies advocating for things that would just make the politicians more money. Sigh.

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          Yes saying we can do something about it and do better is stupid. Same here in Europe btw, no one has the power to do anything about media and capitalism fucking us over.

          However i still think we can joke about it as a way to communicate our problems and relieve ourselves from the tragic.

          (Of course that requires some empathy and a shared humour to overcome our cultural differences.)

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      Accepting it is a low hanging fruit is the saddest thing I’ve read today. It’s so obvious our society is fucked! Don’t you have something more creative to say, dumbass?

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        7% of residential properties in the US are owned by a single corporation, America accounts for 20% of the world’s prison population. The average salary of a college football coach in the US is $3,500,000, almost 60 times the average salary of a school teacher. Americas upcoming election will be fought between a barely coherent octogenarian and a proto-fascist serial fraudster & con artist.

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          and a proto-fascist serial fraudster & con artist.

          Also barely coherent. But in a different, funnier way

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          Okay okay you can stop now 😭😭 /j (while it is upsetting to me as an American, I also think it’s very important to talk about this stuff. carry on lol)

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      Because – and this might be a hot take – I don’t think it should be socially acceptable to bring up a recent national tragedy as a fucking punchline

      We’ve been voting. We’re trying to get the rules changed and we’re getting stonewalled by people who only listen to media that makes up reasons for them to hate things that would be good for the masses because it would be bad for a few people at the top and I’m sick to fucking death of people making fun of us for it and treating actual dying children as some sort of own. For Christ’s sake, have some fucking empathy. None of us, not even the furthest-right conservatives, think this is okay, and we’re trying to do something about it, and it doesn’t help when you’re like “haha look at all the dead children, isn’t it funny how stupid Americans are”

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        I wish I could say people were trying to stop school shootings in my area. I live in PERRY FUCKING IOWA, about a mile from the very school that was shot up, and all I fucking see from anyone around here is thoughts and prayers, wear a blue shirt, Perry Strong!!

        It’s embarrassing.

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        None of us, not even the furthest-right conservatives, think this is okay

        Aguably, conservatives may not think it’s ok but they’re so scared of losing their guns (because their politicians say dems will take them so they can get elected) that conservatives consider dead kids an acceptable loss. If they didn’t, more of them would vote for the party that wants to control who can obtain them.

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          Or, arguably even more importantly, conservatives argue that this is actually about ‘mental health issues’ but then subsequently refuse to do anything to improve mental health. So they don’t even bother trying their own proposed solution.

          You would think at this point that the US would have the most robust mental-healthcare system on the planet!

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        Americans: USA is the greatest country in the world. Behold our God given rights and freedoms! We’re number 1! We’re exceptional! U! S! A! U! S! A!

        Europeans: Actually it’s pretty arrogant to think your country is so much better than all the other. All countries have flaws and strengths. For example USA have problems with gun violence and healthcare.

        Americans: How dare you make fun of our national tragedies! Can’t you see we’re suffering here? You’re making fun of dead children! You MONSTERS!!

        Not that’s a meme. Which template should I use?

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          Americans: USA is the greatest country in the world. Behold our God given rights and freedoms! We’re number 1! We’re exceptional! U! S! A! U! S! A!

          that’s a nice strawman you’ve got there

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                Oh, I see where you got confused. When people say ‘Americans do something’ they mean ‘most Americans do it’ or ‘significant portion of American population do it’, not ‘all Americans do it’. You see, countries are big and there are a lot of people in them and it very rare for everyone in a country to think exactly the same. That’s why we usually focus on the prevailing attitudes that shape the country over the years instead of looking for believes shared by ALL citizens (because they don’t exists). Currently over 40% of Americans believe that “God has granted America a special role in human history” and it was way higher in the not so distant past, that’s why someone could say that “Americans believe it”. Hope this helps.

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        I do agree that we need more empathy. But that empathy can and should be used to have a better humour.

        Because i can’t stress enough how humour is important in dealing with tragedy. It’s one of the greatest tool to overcome it.

        That’s why you also see American joking about it. Only their jokes might be funnier than European’s because they know and emphasize better with the tragedy.

        On the other hand, one thing we do share is trying to change without any or not enough results. That’s something most countries know about in this day and age. Media and corrupt system is something European’s deals with too.

        So i get your anger, it’s also good, it’s a driving force for us to continue trying to change, however helpless we feel.

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      Imagine every time you see a person, he tells you you stink; but every time, also mildly suggests you take a shower.

      What can you possibly do to make him happy?…………….

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      Idk wtf is wrong with all of my countrymen, those are three things we NEED to change.

      It’s so fucking funny to me because they’re probably the same type of Americans that are like “oH aMeRiCa iS sO tOuGh nOt lIkE tHoSe SiSsY cOuNtRiEs iN tHe EU” but here they are all butt hurt when other countries make VERY VALID CRITICISMS about us

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    But school shootings, obesity, healthcare, and oil, though.

    Source: Am American.

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    It’s a low hanging fruit, but I mean… The tree doesn’t have a lot of higher fruits, and they’re not as tasty anyway.

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      Sure we have plenty of high-hanging fruit:

      • antiquated voting laws
      • asymmetrical representation
      • oligarchy via political funding
      • military industrial complex

      But we didn’t start a world war that killed millions of people, that we’re still digging up unexploded munitions from, and that gave us the ability to fix some of our governmental systems and implement social and societal change (at least for white European folks).