Teams also doesn’t support multiple “work” accounts, so I had to boot up a laptop to accept the call. 🤷
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Just one more upside to Firefox, less interruptions during work~
Try changing your user agent to a Chrome one (e.g.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/120.0.0.0 Safari/537.36). Works a treat!Feels like we’re back to 2007 again when spoofing firefox user agent to IE would fix websites not working properly, only now we spoof it to chrome instead.
Sidenote:
HTTP user agents have become absolutely bonkers over the years.
There’s an API called “client hits” that’s replacing user-agent. Some of the hints will require the user to provide permission for the site to use them, since they could be used for fingerprinting.
Major browsers (Chrome and I thibk Firefox) are freezing the user-agent. The only thing that’ll be changing in user agents is the major browser version. Other parts including platform will be static. Chrome on Windows will always report itself as Windows 10 for example. https://www.chromium.org/updates/ua-reduction/
Oh so like how other browsers reported Windows NT for decades… cool.
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Useragent parsing is still a thing?
It is similiar in nature to greping html.
I like how this guy explains the history of browser user agents and why they have this strange configuration today:
And that’s why you shouldn’t parse them and use feature detection instead.
Not really. The example listed above is perfectly readable.
Knowing the versions of webkit, browser version, etc. is important due to inconsistencies, new features, mossing features, and deprecated features. Sure it can be faked, but that is on the end user.
There is more information in there that isn’t actually true and only supposed to trick some old web servers into treating it a certain way than there is actually correct information,
It mentions three different browsers, only one of which is actually true, and three different rendering engines, none of which is actually what’s used.
Chrome doesn’t use Webkit, and the referenced Webkit version is probably 10 years old at this point. The user agent is full of stuff for backwards compatibility. That’s why it’s being deprecated in favour of a better API (client hints)
Yeah, as far as I know it’s not some browser chauvinism, but Firefox not supporting some multimedia protocols, that doesn’t mean it’s Firefox fault though, I’d install some chrome fork just for this kind of interactions
All you have to do is change your user agent. This is just a way for Microsoft to wash their hands of browser support outside of WebKit
you sure you’ll get video calling that way?
Have you tried changing your user agent string to Chrome? I know it can sometimes sidestep these types of “errors”. It can be changed manually through about:config under general.useragent.override, or there exists plenty of addons to switch it more easily.
I’ve avoided changing my user agent because Firefox’s apperant market share is already so low. I’ve installed the extension and will it try it with my work container though.
Well they are just lying, it works fine with Firefox and has worked fine for years. I live in the EU though. Sucks to be american these days, I guess?
I have the same issue, but I am also in the EU. however, I just used an extension to spoof my user agent and now it works fine. there is some weird behavior sometimes, like when I call someone it doesn’t actually ring the other person etc.
EU resident here, doesn’t work for me as well
Same for me, tried it today and it worked perfectly
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This isnt Hexbear man, wrong instance.
But we’re good with Eat the Rich, right?
Yes, that’s still fine.
These days? It’s sucked to be an American for decades.
What the hell does it have to do with being American?
Certain restrictions related to Microsoft Edge are applied less in the EU
You can use private mode or a different browser to login with multiple Teams accounts.
yet
Pfft!
Its cool how all these companies are allowed to just lie to you about their products functionality.
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Yeah I’m more referring to sites that do this ans then work perfectly fine once the user agent reads some brand of chromium. The only serious offender I deal with on a weekly basis is Apple Business Manager.
If you use Firefox, you are a communist; and if you are a communist why would you need the glorious tools of corporate communication? Just make do with rotten turnips as Lenin intended
This whooshed a lot o’ folks.
Conversely, I should maybe try to use the /s thingy and stop thinking people can read my mind. Will I learn this lesson today? Hmmm
You went from -12 to +16!
Fuck /s ✊
Don’t give in to the dark side.
Using Firefox makes you a communist?? Maybe you just enjoying have your data harvested by Google.
Looks like your sarcasm detector is broken. Just like Teams.
You got me, not gonna lie
To be fair sarcasm is impossible to express via firefox.
Firefox supports the standard just fine
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/Sarcasm/Attributes
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Sorry if this was not clear, but it was only a joke. I assure you, I only subscribe to first-quality ideologies.
given the love Teams receives, it not working in [ insert browser ] is definitely a feature
I use floorp, it has user agent spoofing. Set it to chrome, works like a charm.
Or you could just install the extension that does it.
Dude, just try floorp, it is just better.
Why again? It seems pretty obscure and can easily be replaced my customized Firefox or librewolf.
Yeah thats what i thought too, ive been a librewolf user for a long time. Then i tried this, its underrated af. It just has a shitload of features.
I’m in Linux, I had so much problem with FF and Teams that I installed Edge and Teams as a PWA, no more problem with calls and video
Problem with that is that when you click a link in the teams PWA it opens in edge rather than your default browser. I just use the unofficial teams electron app
Fortunately, there’s an extension that solves that: https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/ajgodcbbfnpdbopgmfcgdbfhabbnilbp
I love you
oh nice :)
Same…but with Ungoogled Chromium as Flatpak because it made me feel the least dirty.
Same this is how I got teams to work.
Same, but still sucks
Teams also doesn’t support multiple “work” accounts
Firefox lets you have completely separate profiles with separate accounts (URL:
about:profiles, it can’t be linked to for security reasons) and also an official extension to have another layer of profiles on a per-tab basis (containers).Also no idea what he is talking about, I have 4 work accounts in Teams. Ever since they rebuilt their frontend to the “New Teams” multiple accounts have been working just fine.
In the past I had multiple Team instances as PWA for different work accounts, nowadays it’s all in one app and works pretty good.
Not to defend Teams, it’s total shit, a lot of shit straight up doesn’t work half of the time, including important shit like notifications for new messages and content. But it has come a long way from the days including any image in chat would crash Teams for all participants. It isn’t perfect and the amount of resources it used to do what it does is awful, but compared to most modern apps it’s pretty good.
Just don’t tell a Teams dev Microsoft Messenger did 99% of the same stuff and ran super fast on a Pentium 3 333mhz with 64MB of ram, they’ll cry and you’ll be called out for being a bully.
Works fine for me in Firefox.
This is likely legacy code. Firefox used to have a lot of issues with WebRTC, so practically all video conferencing systems blocked it. Teams probably has some “block Firefox because it doesn’t work properly” check that was written 5+ years ago and none of the current developers are even aware of its existence.
Well-coded ones did feature detection instead of checking the user-agent, meaning they automatically started allowing Firefox as soon as it implemented all the required features.
Feature detection is usually the way to go. If your website / webapp depends on a particular feature, check if that specific feature exists, rather than checking for particular browsers. Browser checks are still needed in some cases, for example Safari sometimes reports that it supports particular features but it really doesn’t (or they’re so buggy to the point where they’re unusable), but that’s relatively rare.
This is indeed the case. I use firefox daily, including for teams. I have to fake my user agent to do it, but it works. Its purely teams just saying fuck you to firefox…
Feature detection is usually the way to go. If your website / webapp depends on a particular feature, check if that specific feature exists, rather than checking for particular browsers. Browser checks are still needed in some cases, for example Safari sometimes reports that it supports particular features but it really doesn’t (or they’re so buggy to the point where they’re unusable), but that’s relatively rare.
This is tough to implement when the feature is present, but implemented wrong. Or, even worse, when it’s implemented right, but the most popular browser implements it wrong and almost everyone else follow suit for compatibility reasons, except for one that takes the stance of following standards. I know safari is notorious for this, think pale moon had those issues, too, and there are still echoes from the past from pre-chrome internet explorer, thank god it’s finally dead.
Chrome is the new Internet Explorer.
At least Chrome is mostly standards-compliant and doesn’t do anything too weirdly. I’d say Safari is the new IE - lots of weird bugs that no other browser has, and sometimes you need hacks specific to Safari.
That’s fair. I meant that more in terms of using market dominance to shape the browser market, and not in entirely good ways.
I’ll rue the day that every website insists it only works with Chrome because of some user-privacy degrading feature that Google insists is a core web technology.
Teams used to have more features on Firefox. Microsoft has intentionally started stripping off shit to move people to edgium
It’s never worked on FF for me. I installed Chromium just to be able to log into several Teams accounts. And tabs are still not working. Classic Microsoft mess.
