• LesserAbe@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    First: a general thinks war is imminent? What a surprise.

    That said, 74k troops does seem pretty low.

    I think conscription has some value because if anyone can get called up at any time then a broader swath of the public has an incentive to oppose war. An all volunteer army means you’ve primarily got people who want to fight (not ideal from a favoring peace standpoint) or those who are economically disadvantaged, and who disproportionately bear the brunt of hawkish foreign policy.

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      11 months ago

      Nah, they’ll still be pushing people towards the deathbots as population control.

  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    There is of course another option, which is to fully arm, equip, and support Ukraine, now.

    They can and will win with sufficient support, and its a far better investment than waiting for things to get far worse (and far more expensive).

    Money spent supporting Ukraine now, getting them to victory, represents a material savings over having to further spend later to fix the mistakes we’ve made in failing to fully support Ukraine up until now.

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    I never get why people who were handed a gun and told to march off and die over there wouldn’t just turn the gun around at the person sending them to be killed?

    Like does anyone feel like the shit state of the world, where the elite class are giving us a worse quality of life than previous generations is worth sacrificing ourselves for?

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    11 months ago

    "Could we try offering actual support to our soldiers and competitive pay and benefits, and eliminating toxic military cultures, to increase recruitment?

    No. It is the people who don’t want to ruin their health and their life for minimal benefits in peacetime who are wrong."

    • Serinus@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      We do see that’s the general’s goal, right? He doesn’t actually want conscription; he wants funding and attention.

    • TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      I think instability of the world at the current moment is being acknowledged by military brass throughout NATO as having the potential volatility to see current regional conflicts expand considerably. Middle East, Taiwan, NK (unlikely but a bit of a crapshoot always), Ukraine, etc. Throw in the wild card that is Trump and his rhetoric surrounding NATO and Europe combined with his embrace of Putin and Russia/dictorial aims in the US and you’ve got several things that would have you worried presently. His job is to make sure the UK is ready to address any situations that arise I think statement is more publicly acknowledging that troubled waters COULD be on the horizon.

  • zarathustra0@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Can’t we just take all of the sociopaths from the banking industry and stick them on the front line?

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      As long as we put the health insurance execs, the pharma execs and the big ag execs right there with them.

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      11 months ago

      As always, feminist countries

      That’s not a thing that exists sir.

      cease to be so

      It’s not possible to cease being something that doesn’t exist, but also if these feminist countries regularly stop being feminist countries were they really feminist countries to begin with?

      when it comes to giving them

      Them who? Feminists? Countries? Just these specific countries that are somehow feminists? When you use a pronoun, it refers to a noun that has previously been used.

      equal treatment that is negative for them.

      “Chief of the General Staff, General Sir Patrick Sanders, who suggested British men and women could face a call-up to the army in the event of a war with Russia.”

      Thank you for your hilarious nonsensical irrelevant word salad! I enjoyed it very much.

      • Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social
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        Lol, I see you enjoyed it a lot, you recreated yourself for so long writing your angry reply that another user corrected me long ago and I deleted my comment, and the mistake you mention I fixed even more ago. Next time, if it takes you so long to write, better check before sending.

        Although the effort wasn’t worth it either, you didn’t address my point. In fact apparently according to you countries have no laws, policies or governments; maybe it’s the UK from another universe that doesn’t even jail women for misdemeanors and doesn’t recognize men as rape victims.

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    They are always ready to kill your kids in defense of their interests. Them and their kids? Not so much.

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    I think the government would find it difficult to make all the young people go. If they all protest, what are they going to do, put them in our overcrowded prisons?

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    Fuck them all. I’m not fighting their meaningless war…

    What does “Sir Richard Sheriff”, “Supreme Commander” of the army knows about life. I won’t let him choose how I die.

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      11 months ago

      No volunteer army will ever be able to fight a war with Moscow. We don’t need conscription now, but we need to be aware that we might need in 5-15 years time and be prepared.

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        No volunteer army will ever be able to fight a war with Moscow.

        Bullshit. Russia’s military is stretched thin and its economy in tatters to the point that it won’t recover in decades “just” from fighting Ukraine+a shitload of material assistance and sanctions from the West.

        If it ever comes to direct war between Russia and the West, especially if that’s during the next few decades, the current forces of the West will absolutely annihilate Russia WITHOUT having to force the unwilling to kill and get killed.

        Unless of course Putin snaps and uses nuclear weapons, in which case there won’t be people alive to conscript.