I know they’re supposed to be good for the environment. But… Holy smokes they drive me up the wall. They really do!

I had no trouble adapting when aluminum can pull-tabs got replaced by push-tabs, because it was pretty much the same movement, and I could see the immediate advantage of not getting cut by a pull-tab.

But the tethered cap is fighting decades of muscle memory in me: I’m used to taking the cap off with one hand and keeping it there while taking a swig with the other. Now I unscrew the cap with one hand, but I still have to hold the cap so it’s out of the way. It feels like drinking in handcuffs each and every time…

So unlike the pull-tab, the tethered plastic bottle cap is one of those compulsory eco solutions that constantly make you feel ever-so-slightly more miserable all the time, and I hate that because ecology only works when it brings something of value both to people and to the environment.

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      When they first introduced these, my brother thought it was a defect and ripped it off. It leaves a pretty sharp bit of plastic behind and he cut his hand when he screwed the lid back on. I get the idea behind them (it’s so you have to recycle the cap along with the bottle) but there’s got to be a better way than this. It makes it a pain to pour a drink or drink directly from the bottle.

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    How are people having problems with these? They’re better in every way, you gotta be dumb as a brick to have any issues with using them.

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      This isn’t possible. Every time I tried that it leaves behind 2 nasty & sharp plastic prongs. I’ve found no way to avoid that. And they can’t even be removed, I tried with pliers and a lighter and some sharp plastic spikes will inevitably remain.

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    I saw it for the first time last summer. Did a little reading, and according to the news articles, it was a EU directive, but it had been heavily lobbied for by Coca Cola. If I remember right, all EU countries should have implemented the necessary legislature by June this year.

    I personally just tear the caps off. Can’t get used to them.

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    Plastic needs to die. There’s no point in designing a cap that goes into recycling reliably when we know recycling plastic just gets dumped in third world countries.

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      PET bottles are actually the most recycled or their plastic upcycled. But yeah, needs to die.

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    Easy solution: only buy drinks in aluminum cans or glass bottles. World is already drowning in microplastic pollution.

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    The idea is solid, the execution is just awful.

    If it had just a bit more slack, at least you will be able to close the bottle without having to jerk it. Add even a little more, and you would be able to drink from the bottle without it poking out your eye.

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    Wait this is new? It’s been around since I was born (which is not as recently as y’all might think). Maybe it’s just the country I live in.

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    This is genuinely one of the most amazing inventions of the last decade. Now you never lose the cap and you don’t have to hold it in your hand.

    I can’t believe anyone thinks this is not amazing.

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      The cap doesn’t stay where you put it, usually is still a bit wet from the liquid and that drips on your face when you take a sip. If you have facial hair, you have to navigate your way around the cap as well.

      I’m not against the idea in principle, but the implementations have ranged from mildly irritating to unusable for me.

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        Maybe I don’t drink from small bottles enough but even then I just turn them out of the way.

        I find it intriguing how people have such different experiences with it.

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      I have cut my lips twice on these fuckers. Also just this week while pouring milk, the cap somehow slipped right under the stream and spilled the milk everywhere.

      Who loses their bottlecap?

      Also this makes it harder for kids to drink from bottles, since they can’t put their whole mouth around.

      I hate these shit stains with a passion.

      I am 99% sure, thia was all just a PR stunt by some bottle company. If they really wanted to do something for the environment, they would go for glass bottles again, since they can be recycled forever.

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        You can bend them out of the way and they don’t break off I find that really useful.

        Especially for bottles and cartons that are poured into a glass.

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          Yes and if you bend them out of the way, some become sharp and I poured a carton of milk. So no, I to not like them.

          To each their own except I have no (real) choice.

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            This really needs to be polled. I’m curious what opinions are

            Paper straws are unanimously awful but I am a huge fan of the attached bottle caps.

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    In what way are they better for the environment? I’m confused

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      Bottle caps stay tethered to the bottles when bottles are taken in for recycling. They don’t end up on the ground.

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        Here is what makes no sense to me - if someone throws the caps on the ground, wouldn’t they be less likely to put the bottle in a recycling bin as well?

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        Which is weird, since I have never seen anyone dispose of a screw-on lid improperly. It‘s always just the caps to glass bottles you see lying around.

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    Never noticed, cut top off the bottle with my limited edition Tenchu katana. I show no mercy

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    It does shit for the environment, no one throws caps away separately while recycling the bottle. Most coloured plastics aren’t recycled anyways. Like 80% of all microplastic is from car tires.

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      It was a very common plastic to be found on beaches. So they wanted to tether it to prevent garbage shit in the ocean.

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    I’m so fucking tired.

    It’s estimated the fishing industry is losing around 400 metric tonnes of fishing gear into Norwegian waters every year.

    Now we are punished for this by attaching the stupid caps to the bottles. Why are we not able to fix problems in this society hellbent for self destruction?

    Why are every problem pushed down on the working class just wanting to enjoy a soda in this capitalistic hellscape.

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      Its the same with the paper straws while disposable electronic cigarettes are still allowed, which not only contain plastics, but also electronics and a rechargeable lithium cell.

      All the while a reusable vape works just as well, while paper straws just suck and they even contain plastic as well.

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          I think that little piece of plastic doesnt really make a huge impact, its not a lot of plastic and we have so many other places where we could guide manufacturers to include less plastic in packaging.

          Its much more energy intensive to produce a disposable vape, they contain more plastic, the battery has to be produced and its unlikely they end up in electronics recycling, where they belong.

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      I haven’t experienced these bottles since I’m in the US, but by that picture; are they not easy to just rip off so it’s normal again?

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        Fairly easy to rip off. But they sometimes leave some sharp pieces of plastic poking your lips. Also it’s annoying.

        Would probably be better if the tether was longer.

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      Attaching the caps to the bottles fixes a problem.

      The lost fishing gear is another problem.

      Fixing one will not fix the other. Fixing one helps. Fixing both helps more.

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        So. In Norway we have this great system for returning used bottles for cash. We get 0.2$ for a 0.5 liter bottle. People are returning the bottle with the cap on. Seeing bottle caps laying around isn’t a thing.

        Instead of attaching the cap to the bottle. Make a return system for the bottles. People are not systematically seperating the bottle and the cap as the cap keeps the sugary residue left inside the bottle in place instead of in the bag you carry them with to the store for returning them for that sweet cash.

        Attaching the cap is a solution looking for a problem.

        Having travelled a lot around in Europe I have never seen bottle caps laying the street alone. People throw them together or not at all.

        This is bureaucracy time spent on caps instead of actual problems. So they could focus on actual issues instead of this shit. It’s a testament to how they blame every issue on random people instead of the industries inventing new ways to fuck up any ecosystem.

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          We also have that in Michigan. You still see bottles and cans places. Historically, there have a lot of ‘reward programs’ that incentivised keeping bottle caps separate (either from the company or occasionally locally for reasons). I also distinctly remember it being advertised that bottle needed to be capless for recycling, so we always removed the caps and tossed them. Only recently have I seen verbiage on bottles requesting them to be recycled with caps on, which I usually forget to do because it’s habit to toss the caps.

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            Cool. The more you know.

            Funny how there are such different practices.

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    Oh, that’s intentional? I just assumed it was a manufacturing defect where the perforation doesn’t quite detach the cap from the ring.