The neat part is they really can’t fuck it up. You can always run your own instance and defederate from a corporation causing problems. Eventually we’ll be getting the feature to block entire instances too so you won’t have to rely on your admin making that choice either.
They can’t “fuck it up”, but they can shove it back into irrelevancy.
Yes? Have you ever tried shoving something back from being on the internet?
You should ask XMPP how relevant it feels. Or Digg. Twitter? Reddit?
I think all an individual entity can do to push a protocol into irrelevancy, is not using it…
Well that’s easy enough when you have the numbers and the content or you buy it and don’t support it, zucc is trying to do it to twitter right now with threads, reddit did it to digg, reddit did it to reddit, , lemmy is doing it to Reddit, Google did it to XMPP, Microsoft has killed numerous budding technogies by driving them into obscurity, how many examples do you need?
Is there a GitHub issue tracking that feature?
I hope not. I remember a time in which you needed to know something in order to enjoy the Internet and I kinda hope this place remains less approachable by normies, but attractive to those who love technology. I feel this is like how IRC was in the 90s.
I think that Lemmy becoming more accessible to normies is a good thing. There’s no reason to gatekeep it, as it’s not the normies that mess up the site, it’s the greedy pricks that follow them and try to make a buck.
Yeah I hate how my personal site on my personal servers is always in mark zuckerbergs hands. Wait what was the question?
We always knew this would happen though.
In order to screw up Lemmy, corporations would have to take over 1300 or so Instances, scattered in different countries all over the world.
The second they screwed up the most popular Instance(s), folks would just move to other Instances and they could defederate from the corporate ones.
That’s why we need to abolish private ownership, all corporations must be collectively owned by the community.
Communism intensifies
China has some pretty cool jets that don’t like totally explode for no reason.
Ah shit
Here we go again
instances collectively agreeing to defederate from corporate ones is what will stop them
Can corporations fuck it up if they want to? Couldn’t we just migrate to a new instance and not federate? Or not federate with them from the beginning?
I’ve already seen it happen with a company creating an account to plug their meal plan site, same thing that has been happening on reddit since it started. Just don’t trust any account thats trying to sell you something.
While I agree with the worry concerning corporations joining, I don’t really mind “normal” people joining though.
That being said, this is an incorrect use of the meme. The text on the two bottom panels are supposed to stay the same.
Sorry if I’m being pedantic.
We sure have arrived at panel 2 indeed. If it works better for your mind consider it a completely new meme template that happens to have the same visual outline, because this meme communicates exactly what I want to communicate :)
No don’t stop. This is the kind of nerd shit I’ve missed!
Corps joining is fine. It’s when the corps are out in control that the issues arise
We have more control this time though… When the companies come, we can block them.
We have the powe to stop corporations. At least for now, as we control the fediverse. However keep in mind, everything meets its end inevitably.
This is not how the meme template is supposed to be used
Thank god someone else noticed. I was starting to doubt my sanity. More than usual, I mean.
It’ll be a lot harder for them with federated software, and when the free instances are all solidly established
They can still infiltrate them by buying their way into the admin/s pokets since maintaining servers is expensive.
It honestly doesn’t seem that expensive based on others talking about their hosting costs. The bigger instance will be more expensive but they would also have a lot more people who can easily handle the cost without needing external funds. That said some instance will go that way not for the server cost but for simply money in their pocket at which point you can just switch to another instance.
It gets more expensive if you strart a successful meme community with lots of data. Some big Mastodon servers already store gigabytes per hour. Even with Cloudflare the expenses can soon get pretty high.
But yes, everything else with Lemmy is just a few euros a month.
I still don’t understand why they aren’t just utilizing imgur and that catbox hosting service exclusively. Plenty of image/gif hosting options.
The current default installation, especially if using Ansible, doesn’t use any commercial image hosting services. You need to go out of the golden path to do so.
Even using an S3-compatible host is not in the default path: the files are stored to the server file system. So, yeah, maybe this is the reason. And of course, giving your content to a commercial entity is something people in the fediverse doesn’t like that much. Wasn’t the idea to get rid of these entities that can just be bought by a billionaire asshole and suddenly killing your community.
Any estimate on costs? Round figures?
My lemm.ee instance costs around €150-200 per month (as per our admin) which is a medium sized instance but it is extremely well maintained. But it’s certainly not 100s of millions of dollars, that’s for sure.
Someone made a thread specifically for that a while ago but don’t remember where or what the name was, sorry
Here’s hoping it stays sane and corpo free for a long time
maintaining servers is a lot more affordable when your website isn’t bloated with tracking and unnecessary features. It’s not realistic for a corporation to buy up a significant chunk of the fediverse anyways
