F discord. cancer of the internet. it is even worse than everything facebook or whatever. also gatekeeping content behind a software of a very shady company + forcing phone number for registration are just so many “no go”
I mean, I think Discord itself is fine
I think how people are using discord as an info source is a huge issue.
It’s a good form of Chat messenger, something you wouldn’t want to index (99.9% of it would be spam)
But pretty much in 10-20 years we’ll probably have a ton of communities have complete breakdowns because they stored all their information somewhere that doesn’t let them take it with them when they leave.
Basically I think Discord is just going past what it was designed to do.
I don’t think discord is the way forward. Lemmy on web is awesome but the app on mobile needs a lot of work to be remotely good.
I go to Discord for very different reasons than to Lemmy/Reddit. Lemmy allows any arbitrary number of parallel dicussions on specific topics, the same cannot be said for what’s essentially a bundle of chat rooms.
There are already multiple mobile clients in development and they made quite huge jumps already.
I’m currently using connect on Android, but also Jerboa saw massive development progress - although I would wish, they would test their updates more, because there seemed to be always some kind of regression.
But didn’t try it for some time now, maybe this already changed
Discord is such a terrible platform for large scale communication.
Nothing pisses me off more than looking for a support link and being told you have to go to a discord. It’s terrible to search, generally requires a bunch of hoops to jump through verifying you’re not a bot and almost never has the info you’re looking for anyways.
Plus Discord is a shitty company removing features from paid users (custom tags) and forcing changes to be more like Twitter.
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Don’t forget when you finally managed to find the invite link it is dead, so you have to try to find another one.
And if you’re using vpn or anything to avoid censorship, there’s the nasty phone verification round waiting for you.
They’ve been known to do that shit totally randomly, too.
Along with only having 100 slots available for non-Nitro users. Even with Nitro it’s 200. Between social spaces and games I play (some with several servers just for different classes), I don’t have much space left for random topics. I’m clearly a heavy Discord user, but it is not the place for forums for all the reasons you listed too.
Oof, and since they pretty much require a valid cell number for each new account it’s not like you can have alts for certain topics.
Discord is great for making servers for friends. That’s about where my use of it ends.
I like the continued migrations from Reddit but Discord doesn’t seem like the best destination
and discord will perform their own major enshittification stunt sooner or later
They’ve already started
The username change pissed a lot of people off (2015 account and still couldn’t get the 4 letter I had before) and they canceled nitro over it. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they lost money on this move.
“Will”?
Yeah, it seems they’re beginning to head that way, with the nitro first and then the super emotes or whatever they’re called. I suppose I can see, if it’s server cost, but the unnecessary bells and whistles are beginning to bug me and it’s only going to continue.
Unfortunately, it’s a natural result of Discord moving from being a useful little service to a “platform” with investors and needing to constantly be updated with useless nonsense to keep the “value” of the product alive.
Realistically, once everything was up and running, and they had moved their DB over to their current platform, someone should have taken the keys away from them and just said “Discord is done, it’s complete”. We likely wouldn’t be having this much of a problem with useful information being hidden away behind Discord server invite URLs.
unlucky for discord they are the most easily replaceable platform of them all and there are already selfhostable clones
Yeah, to be truly useful, a community needs to be googleable. And discord is certainly not that.
That, and the conversations move far faster there. Any remark about anything moves the subject further up, and you’re essentially subjected to reading the comments section of the entire sub all at once when you just came for the memes.
Holding a conversation in such a large place would be near impossible from experience, no matter how many channels there are. It’s just not going to be pleasant because it’s not made for what they want to do.
They actually added a feature/channel type not long ago that’s supposed to make it more like forums or discussion boards, but it doesn’t appear to be in wide use, most servers just use the standard text chat thing and it’s a pain in the ass to find anything or keep up a normal conversation in there. I didn’t even realize it was a thing until a month or two ago when somebody else pointed it out to me. It apparently didn’t make a big splash at the time when it was released or they didn’t make a big deal about it.
Discord has threads now, works just like Reddit.
You can create a thread and people can comment on them just fine.
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Looks just as clunky as the rest of discord. Sorry, its just not the same.
As someone that’s used it for work, I don’t find it very different than the Lemmy UI at all
Yeah, discords a mess. Its a fine voice chat app, but for everything else, its like using a phillips screwdriver on a flat head. Yeah, you can probably muscle it out, but it aint gonna be pretty and theres better ways to do it.
nah, it’s like using a Phillips screwdriver on anything, there’s better things in every way
Understandable, it’s not for everyone. It’s a decent option for someone that already has a discord account and wants to leave Reddit, but at the same time doesn’t understand/want to joint Lemmy or kbin.
Fair point. I keep forgetting that’s a thing, because I’ve genuinely never seen anyone ever use it aside from one single time just to see what it did/harass another user. And then immediately everyone went, “Huh. Neat,” and lost interest.
Understandable, it’s pretty useful in the IOS Beta community for being able to see new features or bugs without having them in a general chat group.
That, and the conversations move far faster there. Any remark about anything moves the subject further up, and you’re essentially subjected to reading the comments section of the entire sub all at once when you just came for the memes.
It’s the difference between asynchronous and synchronous mediums of communication. Lemmy is much closer to async, and Discord much closer to sync. No medium is ever going to be able to square that circle. You can’t have both.
Very large discords don’t work for chatting.
Discords with 100-300 people with around 20-30% active and 15% very active with 20% popping in occasionally for an hour or two and the rest just lurking seems like a good sweet spot for discord servers
I wad on a discord with 20 people. After ten minutes I left. How anyone had a conversation is beyond me
It’s a skill those of us from the IRC days cultivated.
I’m glad I’m not good at it anymore.
you just gotta shout and hope they hear you
I think everyone really appreciates the occasional @everyone, helps folks remember they’re alive and all
I don’t think fashion advice needs to be googleable?
I could post a picture of me wearing a shirt and ask people what their opinion is and then everyone moves. Doesn’t need to be archived on the net
Yeah, I am pretty sure it is actually the opposite of helpful if someone digs up a fashion post more than a year old, at most. Men’s fashion doesn’t change quite as fast as women’s fashion, but fast enough that it’s a bad idea to look in the archives unless you know what was in style at that time is still in style. And if you know that, why look it up?
Yeah, lots of stuff is temporary, not like IT where solutions posted and searchable could save thousands of people headache and time.
Yeah, many users of hardwareswap were not thrilled to hear they’d be moving to Discord.
I found it depends on the sub Reddit.
I’m very tech-literate but Discord has always seemed so fucking messy to me. So many channels and emojis and I barely know how to send someone a DM or add them to my friends list or whatever. How on earth are you supposed to keep track of anything?
It’s buggy as hell on mobile too, the official desktop client is literally just an app with an outdated version of electron that has memory leaks easily
it’s chaotic as fuck and nothing like reddit / lemmy / kbin.
Just a giant chat room, nothing permanent
What the fuck is wrong with those people and their fetish with Discord? It’s not a forum, it’s a fucking chat platform where you have to pay for fucking emojis!
From one centralised platform to another. Feels like poeple don’t learn.
There is nothing wrong, it is their informed decisions.
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They have closed off their community to outsiders. That’s just sad, it’s hard to add members if no one can see over the fence and ask about your community and then decide to join if they like it. It’s not like they’re giving away invites randomly also. That community will be like a hermit kingdom, all insular.
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Why one silo to a worse one
Someone tell these hot boys about lemmy
Discord even with forums category is not meant for discover new content and search.
Discord, really?
Discord? Yuck.
Discord? Ewww
It’s /r/malefashionadvice.
So nothing has been lost.
If a bunch of 20-somehtigns wish to get advice from another bunch of self-important 20-somethings on what to wear they may as well fuck off to the moon for all I care.
Maybe I missed something, but what’s wrong with guys talking about fashion for those that are interested in it? I’m not that into it myself, but I don’t see why it would illicit this kind of a response?
Nothing missing, there is nothing wrong for some men looking for dressing advice. Some old men dress like teenagers.
As someone who didn’t have disposable income until I was in my thirties, I had a lot of catching up to do and the people there helped me out a lot.
The poor man’s /fa/
That’s like getting kicked out of the home you grew up with to moving in permanently at a hotel, instead of getting your own home…
It’s like you and your friends getting kicked out of a restaurant and then deciding to hang out at a shoe store instead of just finding a different restaurant…
Discord is nothing like reddit/lemmy/kbin.
Yep that’s me… my name is Earl.
I rewatched that entire series earlier this year. It’s a shame it got cancelled.
That two part cops episode is a gem.
No ur just crashing on a relative’s house
Trading one master for another, I see.
eh why not lemmy 🙂
I get that discord sucks but it works for them, who cares? Those verge comments, woo boy.
I need to stop reading the Verge comments. I always think there might be one worth reading, and somehow, when—or if—I find it, it’s just not worth the trouble of slogging through the others.
they’ll be moving again in a couple of years
