Should be out it on a giant cassette Cut that bad boi down to 5.5 miles each roll!
All of this could fit on a micro SD card.
Not quite, as the other dude said. IMAX is on a whole other level, which is probably why there are so few of them around.
Needs a 600 lbs SD card.
Probably not. 3 hours of uncompressed 1080p video is around 2tb. The film is closer to 16k which is 64 times more pixels than 1080p. This ain’t your web rip off pirate bay.
Still works if you replace the SD card with an SSD, only slightly larger in comparison to the reel. Of course this ignores any losses when you digitise the film.
Surely even a lossless compression is incredibly smaller. (But you can’t truly losslessly convert from film to digital, only commenting on uncompressed 1080p.)
It’s hard to say, but film grain is noisy and noise does not compress well. In my experiments with lossless video compression without film grain you’d get a ~3:1 compression ratio. With film I’d guess closer to 2:1.
So 16k (15360 x 11520) x 12 bit per channel (36) x 24 fps x 3 hours (10800) is 206 TiB. Even with very generous estimates of compression ratios you’re not fitting this on anything less than a 2U server filled with storage.
However, let’s not forget the whole thing was created digitally then “printed” to film, so there was never a “film original”.
He uses the camera negative as much as possible and avoids CGI as much as possible so a lot of film hasn’t been digitised and reprinted it’s from the actual source.
Fair point, I hadn’t looked up the specific movie / director
Christopher Nolan is famously one of the few big Hollywood directors who still shoots much of his footage on actual film, specifically in IMAX.
Well, kind of. Nolan does shoot on film, including all of Oppenheimer, but they almost definitely brought it into some digital format for editing before pressing it back onto film in this case.
Sure but that’s not the point, film is wholly uncompressed. When theaters get 4k digital releases they get mailed a hard drive with the movie on it. “This” wouldn’t fit on any card.
Yeah, nah. The equivalent digital copy would be terabytes, and the read speed of a micro SD likely wouldn’t be fast enough.
This is insane. I want to go watch this in IMAX so badly, but there are no IMAX theaters anywhere near me. Maybe one day I’ll get a chance. Do they ever reshow older IMAX movies? Like, I would kill to go back and see Interstellar or Dark Knight.
Why do people get so hyped for IMAX? There’s gotta be something more to it than just an even bigger screen, right?
It’s still the highest spatial resolution format. The recent laser systems do win for dynamic range, but for sheer detail you’d need roughly the equivalent of 16K while most theater digital projectors are 2K to 4K.
An estimate for “enough” detail when doing foveated rendering is 12K, so 16K uniform is pretty decent.
The confusing part is there are different types of IMAX’s. My nearest cinema has IMAX screens but they are just slightly larger theatre screens for the most part. But downtown there’s a 70mm film IMAX and if a film was made for it, I’ll go out of my way to see it there - Interstellar and Dunkirk come to mind. Seats are closer to the screen and the aspect ratio is more square, and film just has a certain charm to it.
Many years ago, I ended up with a membership to a local museum that had a OMNIMAX theater, which is IMAX, but with a dome and a fisheye lens is used ot shoot the film. The projector is, essentially, in the middle of the room and shoots “up” at the screen / dome at about a 45 degree angle. The net result is the film is pretty much half-a-sphere in front of you. Your entire field of vision is filled by the media.
They almost always showed educational films or documentaries specifically filmed for the format. I specifically recall some stupid one about snowboarding of all things, which was really just an excuse for the filmmakers to go snowboarding and ride helicopters with an expensive movie camera in the mountains. It’s very, very cool.
Even if there aren’t any major studio movies made for these theaters, if you ever get a chance to see something on one of the few left in operation, take it. Totally worth it.
It’s good at home since it can fit the entire 16/9 display.
It basically a badge for a more premium film experience. It’s a bigger screen, on an aspect ratio that fills the vision, with seating that puts you in the right place, rather than trying to see over the person in front.
Huh, yeah I’ll just stay on my couch.
That’s as premium as it gets: deep OLED color, pulled pork out of the crock pot, blankets to curl up with, the works.
I mean, I’m driving 3 hours and my brother is driving 4 hours (each way) so we can see Oppenheimer in 70 mm / 15 perf together next weekend.
I dunno man, I’ve been to IMAX to see Dune in and it was so fucking loud i had to leave after 15 minutes, even with 1100 3M ear plugs which are like -30db.
That’s a theatre issue, not an IMAX one.
That’s a him issue. It’s supposed to be fucking loud. When those people go to the lobby and tell them to turn it down, that’s when I walk out and buy the midnight ticket.
hmm I thought the point of IMAX is you get the same experience no matter the theater
I was wondering the same, and it sounds like it all depends on theatre. Someone also said that if you had quite a bit of money (I don’t remember how much, but it was in thousands), you could pay for them to get the IMAX film spool (which are apperantly heavily controlled, for piracy I guess) and play it again just for you.
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yeah, i dont know anything about this topic other than what that guy said, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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There are productions that still use film?
EDIT: Missed the iMAX part.
Many. And this isn’t even the footage, this is the print for the cinema.
A surprising number of films are still shot on film and then transfered to a digital intermediate for editing and later distribution. Not only the few film imax ones. I wonder if anyone is still doing their editing on film, I highly doubt it.
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I never thought of that as a possibility. Best of both worlds then I guess.
Or worst. I don’t know enough about editing to say.
Guessing this will beat Interstellar record for longest IMAX film. Interstellar has the record being 2 hours and 47 minutes. But looks like Oppenheimer is 3 hours long.
I’m kind of out of the loop. What is the hype around oppenheimer and barbie recently?
Christopher Nolan tends to make beautiful IMAX films like Inception or The Dark Knight, and he supposedly put in a lot of effort to simulate a nuclear blast using physical effects and not CG by using massive amounts of dynamite, so people are excited.
Barbie movie is made by Greta Gerwig and the trailer made it out to be a smart satire of the Barbie concept with Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling as Barbie and Ken. Also they used so much pink paint for the sets that it caused a nationwide shortage of that color (of that one brand only).
Both have a lot of hype and are expected to be top movies of the summer. They happen to overlap on the same opening weekend, which is amusing since they’re such different movies.
Oppenheimer is expected to be really good, mainly because it’s made by Christopher Nolan. Barbie is releasing on the same day, so it probably gained some popularity off of that.
Sadly, I think Barbie is gonna do well financially, but Oppenheimer will still be considered the better film.
Why is that sad? The Barbie movie looks clever and well made. For all we know, it could be great and Oppenheimer turns out to be a dud. Highly unlikely, but then again Tenet wasn’t that great IMO (but at least it looked cool).
I don’t think you quite understand the hold on culture barbie has. Though the two being such polar opposites of each other in vibe and tone likely did boost each other cause of them coming out at the same time.
Lol I don’t think Barbie gained popularity from Oppenheimer. A lot of people are just excited for it, it’s getting advertised a lot lately and it has some crazy aesthetics/vibes.
have you seen the trailers? barbie actually looks good as shit - the first teaser was a shot for shot recreation of 2001: A Space Odyssey trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6vPuIMAOlA
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nice thanks robot! Good job
3d movies are twice as long as that!
Go watch the movie. A lot of people worked very hard on it. But still, remember to show your support to the strike.
Thanks, Margot! Looking forward to the double feature!
Yay
Pretty unnecessary in this digital age
Well you could argue making movies is unnecessary altogether. This is art and this is the medium used by the artist.
It’s not about image quality of film vs digital, it’s about the feel and texture of the experience as a whole.
Just knowing there is an actual film being rolled and having light shun through it while watching it is part of that experience.
If you can’t tell the difference on the screen it should make no damn odds how the image was stored.
And who says there’s no difference on screen?
Shun?
Lol I guess I meant shone. Anyways, with light shining through
I disagree. Have you ever been to a real 70mm IMAX screening? I don’t mean your typical “IMAX”. There’s only a handful in the whole world.
The quality is gorgeous, and the screens are huge. You also get significantly more of the frame than you will in traditional cinema and on bluray releases.
Don’t call it unnecessary until you’ve actually seen it. Digital IMAX isn’t close yet.
The reason it’s unnecessary is that digital can completely capture a 70mm in high enough resolution that you perceive no difference at all. 8 or 16K projection is completely feasible in commercial projection systems. It means the cinema only has to deal with a small box instead of an enormous roll of film.
That doesn’t mean either digital IMAX since that’s old tech using something like 2K projection which isn’t adequate.
Dammit I was going to watch Oppenheimer in my local laser IMAX, but this picture made me buy a ticket to Prague to decide for myself if 1570mm worth it :D
Why tho?
Me: Watching it on my phone Nolan: 🫨
Nooooooo! We don’t provide mixes for substandard audio setups!
I’m so stoked for this. Just got done listening through The Last Podcast on the Left’s series on the Manhattan project too
Are they an actual leftist podcast? Not tankies in disguise?
Also looking into it, it’s a true crime podcast? Seems an odd name choice if it isn’t somewhat related to politics. Unless I’ve 100% misunderstood the naming convention.
It’s a reference to the movie “The last house on the left.” Not sure about their politics but it’s like a horror/paranormal podcast.
Wtf is a tankies
A Red Fascist. An authoritarian in the guise of a communist. They support USSR and CCP.
Woof
As much as I’ve been able to gather from the .ml Lemmy instances where these people live, extreme communists who defend Chinese and Russian propaganda and deny any atrocities they’ve committed while railing on America to defend their stance.
Not related to politics, they’re horror fans - name is a reference to ‘Last House on the Left’. They cover anything that’s macabre, be it real or fake, so true crime, serial killers, paranormal events, cults, conspiracy theories, cryptids; that sort of thing.
Might wanna get off the computer every now and then.
How is this any kind of rebuttal? Pathetic.
Fellow Lemmy LPOTL fans rise from your grave!
All the sloughing.
Oh we’ll get to the sloughing!
(Not nearly as much sloughing as I expected though, tbh. They talked it up way more than actually talking about it, which is fine)
Man, that is one tasty burger
Holy shit balls.
