I’m kind of out of the loop. What is the hype around oppenheimer and barbie recently?
Oppenheimer is expected to be really good, mainly because it’s made by Christopher Nolan. Barbie is releasing on the same day, so it probably gained some popularity off of that.
have you seen the trailers? barbie actually looks good as shit - the first teaser was a shot for shot recreation of 2001: A Space Odyssey trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6vPuIMAOlA
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Sadly, I think Barbie is gonna do well financially, but Oppenheimer will still be considered the better film.
Why is that sad? The Barbie movie looks clever and well made. For all we know, it could be great and Oppenheimer turns out to be a dud. Highly unlikely, but then again Tenet wasn’t that great IMO (but at least it looked cool).
Lol I don’t think Barbie gained popularity from Oppenheimer. A lot of people are just excited for it, it’s getting advertised a lot lately and it has some crazy aesthetics/vibes.
I don’t think you quite understand the hold on culture barbie has. Though the two being such polar opposites of each other in vibe and tone likely did boost each other cause of them coming out at the same time.
Christopher Nolan tends to make beautiful IMAX films like Inception or The Dark Knight, and he supposedly put in a lot of effort to simulate a nuclear blast using physical effects and not CG by using massive amounts of dynamite, so people are excited.
Barbie movie is made by Greta Gerwig and the trailer made it out to be a smart satire of the Barbie concept with Margot Robbie and Ryan Gosling as Barbie and Ken. Also they used so much pink paint for the sets that it caused a nationwide shortage of that color (of that one brand only).
Both have a lot of hype and are expected to be top movies of the summer. They happen to overlap on the same opening weekend, which is amusing since they’re such different movies.
Can’t wait! IMAX in Providence can run the full 70mm version.
All of this could fit on a micro SD card.
Probably not. 3 hours of uncompressed 1080p video is around 2tb. The film is closer to 16k which is 64 times more pixels than 1080p. This ain’t your web rip off pirate bay.
Still works if you replace the SD card with an SSD, only slightly larger in comparison to the reel. Of course this ignores any losses when you digitise the film.
Surely even a lossless compression is incredibly smaller. (But you can’t truly losslessly convert from film to digital, only commenting on uncompressed 1080p.)
It’s hard to say, but film grain is noisy and noise does not compress well. In my experiments with lossless video compression without film grain you’d get a ~3:1 compression ratio. With film I’d guess closer to 2:1.
So 16k (15360 x 11520) x 12 bit per channel (36) x 24 fps x 3 hours (10800) is 206 TiB. Even with very generous estimates of compression ratios you’re not fitting this on anything less than a 2U server filled with storage.
Sure but that’s not the point, film is wholly uncompressed. When theaters get 4k digital releases they get mailed a hard drive with the movie on it. “This” wouldn’t fit on any card.
However, let’s not forget the whole thing was created digitally then “printed” to film, so there was never a “film original”.
Well, kind of. Nolan does shoot on film, including all of Oppenheimer, but they almost definitely brought it into some digital format for editing before pressing it back onto film in this case.
He uses the camera negative as much as possible and avoids CGI as much as possible so a lot of film hasn’t been digitised and reprinted it’s from the actual source.
Fair point, I hadn’t looked up the specific movie / director
Christopher Nolan is famously one of the few big Hollywood directors who still shoots much of his footage on actual film, specifically in IMAX.
Not quite, as the other dude said. IMAX is on a whole other level, which is probably why there are so few of them around.
Needs a 600 lbs SD card.
Yeah, nah. The equivalent digital copy would be terabytes, and the read speed of a micro SD likely wouldn’t be fast enough.
That will fit nicely in my 32gb micro sdxc the size of a fingernail.
Actually it won’t. A movie on a 4k blu ray is around 80gb without additional compression. And Oppenheimer is shot on 70mm which is more like 8k resolution. Still would fit on a micro SD of course
It’s way bigger than that. Usually cinemas receive movies in multiple terabyte hard drives. Thats because they are using JPEG2000 standard (it varies, but it is close to lossless) and a movie can take up anywhere from 500GB to 2TB (highly dependent on resolution, it can go above 2TB).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_2000?wprov=sfla1True. I was assuming h265 or something similar
Isn’t IMAX more like 16K?
And it would fit on a 32GB if you compress it enough :)
Reminds me of that time adult swim showed their new aqua team hunger force movie on tv before hitting the theater, but they minimized it to a tiny tiny corner of the screen while they played their normal broadcast
THE ARTIFACTS
WE MUST COLLECT THEM ALL
True but you won’t lose the film roll that easy
You can copy the content more easily tho
600 lbs ~ 272 kg
272 kg ~ 43 stone
How many pebbles?
86 in the winter, 87 daylight savings time
Oh shit, i messed that up. It is brutal to live through this two times a year.
43 stone ~ 1.4 boulder
2 boulders = 1 pair boobies
alright
According to this the average pair of boobies is 860 pounds, sounds about right.
For you folks in the south, that’s equivalent to roughly 3 1/2 washing machines.
I understand 600lbs. Kgs mean nothing to me.
I understand 272 kg. Lbs mean nothing to me. :)
11 miles ~ 18km
Or approximately 2400 cheeseburgers for the Americans in the audience.
That’s almost a years worth!
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Flashback to the old days (1 month ago)
Joey refugee here, this was only 24 h ago
This obsession with the length and weight of the film is such a bizarre marketing strategy.
Ya this feels really astroturfy. Are they bragging that the movie is really long?
I feel like you don’t know what astroturfing is. This is just straight up promotional marketing for a movie coming out next week.
Movies are getting really long and I don’t know if I like it. I watched Across the Spider-verse recently which was I think 2.5 hours. To be fair it was a fantastic 2.5 hours, but every other movie in the theater was 2 hours plus and one was over 200 minutes long. Half of them were animated, which are usually on the short side and for good reason, because there’s never any real meat to the story (Spider-verse again being the exception). Sometimes you just want a relaxed 1 hour 20 minute story; not every film has to be this gigantic grand experience.
Do you know “The Ten Commandments” or “Ben Hur”? Or perhaps such monumental comedy productions as “The Hallelujah Trail”? It’s always been a thing
I’ll add The Godfather, Casino, Braveheart and Lord of The Rings to fill in some of the gap between then and now
If this movie was 120 minutes or less I’d see it. I cannot imagine there being 3 hours worth of stuff that I need to know about that guy… not happening!
Ikr l, watched spider verse a few days ago, awesome movie but I just was like, get this over with I’m falling asleep
I wouldn’t call it astroturfy but its so weird to me. Like nobody is walking around being like “The new PS5 weighs 7.5 pounds and has 139 miles of copper in its motherboard!” repeatedly for weeks. (I made up the amount of copper, but the weight is correct.)
Wow only 7.5 pounds, I have to get one now.
It’s something you don’t see every day. What are you asking for?
It’s interesting, calm down.
I think you meant to reply to the guy above me.
Yeah, we all know girth is what matters.
Big and heavy means quality, don’t you know?
Never believe anyone who says size doesn’t matter.
They must have done what some manufacturers do where they add a hunk of iron that has no purpose other than to make their products feel heftier lol
I think it’s more about the sheer amount of visual information that’s captured on film that size, but okay.
The weight is sign of reliability. I always go for reliability.
Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn’t work you can always hit them with it.
- Borris the bullet dodger
Go watch the movie. A lot of people worked very hard on it. But still, remember to show your support to the strike.
Thanks, Margot! Looking forward to the double feature!
Yay
I didn’t realize imax was still film. I figured it went digital with everything else.
Our local one did, but I guess not all. It’s a shame, you used to be able to watch the film being wound through windows
You can still do it through Linux, if you know the right commands…
Simply redirect standard output to the projector’s file descriptor.
I can honestly say I do not have any Windows in my house.
Yeah, that was pretty cool to see growing up.
there are both, the top end is still film though as far as I understand
Digital still can’t match 70mm IMAX. In fact, IMAX film is even higher resolution than regular 70mm as the film runs through horizontally rather than vertically so more space is used for the image.
But a lot of it has moved digital. IMAX has special laser projectors. They just are not as good. Also, there is a lot of LieMAX (smaller theaters given IMAX branding) that are pretty well all digital.
70mm film to be exact
I’ve not really been into films but recently I’ve started to pay more attention to directors and screen writers.
I really want to watch Oppenheimer as it interests me but I really really want to watch it on 70mm IMAX, I am lucky enough to love 6 miles away from one and I don’t know if it will be that good or if the marketing team has done a hell of a job.
I’ve been watching videos and reading up about IMAX and cinematography. Every showing is booked up for the first week that I checked. Even the 7am showings.
How good is 70mm imax
It’ll be really hard to know without seeing it in both formats… I will for sure be doing IMAX since I live close to one using this format.
70mm is the equivalent of shooting 18k digitally
15/70mm film to be exact. IMAX 15/70mm is different to standard 5/70mm you would get in a normal cinema.
There’s only a handful of IMAX theatres in the world that can play this format. Most of them are digital.
Yeah I’m stoked…two theaters play in 70mm format near me.
Christopher Nolan is known for his love of film over digital.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dark-knight-rises-chris-nolan-digital-335514/
Booked my imax ticket today. Very excited
Damn! Can’t wait to see it
I’m so stoked for this. Just got done listening through The Last Podcast on the Left’s series on the Manhattan project too
Fellow Lemmy LPOTL fans rise from your grave!
Are they an actual leftist podcast? Not tankies in disguise?
Also looking into it, it’s a true crime podcast? Seems an odd name choice if it isn’t somewhat related to politics. Unless I’ve 100% misunderstood the naming convention.
Not related to politics, they’re horror fans - name is a reference to ‘Last House on the Left’. They cover anything that’s macabre, be it real or fake, so true crime, serial killers, paranormal events, cults, conspiracy theories, cryptids; that sort of thing.
It’s a reference to the movie “The last house on the left.” Not sure about their politics but it’s like a horror/paranormal podcast.
Might wanna get off the computer every now and then.
How is this any kind of rebuttal? Pathetic.
Wtf is a tankies
As much as I’ve been able to gather from the .ml Lemmy instances where these people live, extreme communists who defend Chinese and Russian propaganda and deny any atrocities they’ve committed while railing on America to defend their stance.
A Red Fascist. An authoritarian in the guise of a communist. They support USSR and CCP.
Woof
All the sloughing.
Oh we’ll get to the sloughing!
(Not nearly as much sloughing as I expected though, tbh. They talked it up way more than actually talking about it, which is fine)
Seeing this tonight and cannot wait!
What’s the point of even doing it on film if it was shot digitally?
Or did they go through the whole process using analog technology? I don’t know much about this movie.
Well can IMAX projectors display digital media? If the thing showing the movie only works with film, that would be a good reason to put it on film.
Why tho?
Me: Watching it on my phone Nolan: 🫨
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