To be fair, this could be very make or break for Google. If someone else solves AI search properly, and they can’t catch up, it would be really bad for them. G+/Facebook were another market completely so it wasn’t really taking any of their current market share.
But I do think they are panicking a bit too much.
Fucking lmao
I liked that insider peek from Jenson - well I liked reading all of this, but especially that:-).
I’m kinda surprised he isn’t bound by some sort of NDA.
Every tech company I worked at, NDAs were a doc to not share code or research discoveries.
These are all general opinion statements. There aren’t any verifiable facts like, “on this date at a meeting with x we discussed how AI project y is myopic and non-user-centered.”
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NDAs are usually signed when you’re hired, not when you leave.
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What are they gonna do if you refuse to sign? Fire you?
If this guy voluntarily left, then he wasn’t getting a severance package that they could withhold (and on that note, this is a good reason to include involuntary severence in your employment contract, if you can negotiate it).
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But they’re not gonna offer severence to someone who quits, right?
The wording made it sound like he quit rather than got laid off.
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Laws will differ in different places, but I’m familiar with 3 categories of terminations:
- With cause (firing)
- Without cause (layoff)
- Voluntary (quitting)
When someone is terminated with cause or quits, they are not entitled to severance and they do not collect unemployment insurance. When someone is laid off, the employer is obligated to pay a severence package.
The Amazon focus and pivot program is interesting. That definitely looks like they’re bribing low performers to quit, and I smell an ulterior motive. Maybe it’s to get them to sign an NDA but I feel like it’s to avoid wrongful dismissed lawsuits. Although I suppose why not both?
AI told him he could ignore it.
So excited for AI written TOS that are just around the corner.
I was just talking to my friend anf his job is going to use AI to parse contracts to understand who is Liable for X, whose responsibility is Y, etc.
So yeah no we’re close.
Can’t wait for that one to go horribly wrong.
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For a brief moment in the beta for all this, it basically just summarized the top two or three reputable results, and attached a link to where it got the data.
They should have just left it at that, and not started mixing in random blogs and social media sites.
The ability to summarize the Wikipedia article and a random university professors page where they list every fact known to man about pine trees or something was actually helpful.If I want the AIs best guess about how to fuck up a pizza, I just go to the site where I can ask it. Bad advice when searching is just shit.
A tldr for “what is turpentine” is actually helpful.How do you get the AI results on google.com? When I search for anything, it shows a summary and then all the results, sponsors, etc… Nothing is tagged as “AI”.
(I never visit google so forgive me if this has an obvious answer)
I can reproduce most results with Google app on Android. I’m in Europe, not in USA. It just appears as some text below the search box, not marked as anything. Except this one about smoking. Now it says smoking as bad. I guess Google already told the AI to behave.
You can opt into it and other beta technologies at Google Labs.
Thank you!
I think it’s still in A/B testing stages, 80% of my searches don’t include the AI but it pops up occasionally. I also notice it more often on my phone, and rarely on my desktop where I’m not signed in.
Are you in the US?
Yeah
I’m not sure then. Maybe Google is just rolling it out in waves, and hasn’t gotten to you yet?
All good. I’ll just continue to mock their progress for now.
The difference is that Google+ was actually a wonderful product.
But a couple years down the line Google did what Google does and destroyed it from the inside making it worse and worse until it was just a shell of what it started out being.
Google did what Google does
I remember wrapping my head around “Google Wave” and being like “Hey that sounds nea–oh it’s gone already?”
Dude for real. Wave was awesome.
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If you were into tech, the tech people were amazing. Yonatan Zunger comes to mind. He was a backend engineer at Google and the guy was great.
I also met many people who are still friends, many of whom became real life friends too.
I even got an amazing job thanks to my contacts on g+.
The feed layout was awesome. The fact that everything got fed to rss. The fact that you could tailor posts so easily. God I miss it. Only social media I’ve ever really been a part of.
It was wonderful ♥️
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Please don’t misunderstand, I’m not saying that your experience isn’t valid, I am merely providing a counterpoint based upon my own experience.
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A wonderful product or a wonderful community? It sounds like you’re describing the people who were on it and not the platform itself.
The platform was wonderful. Intuitive, powerful, everything every other platform was not. Google started killing it slowly long before it died, but in its heyday it was amazing.
I have to admit I mostly only used it for testing purposes. I worked on a product that integrated with it, and I remember it being frustrating to work with. I forget the details of what frustrated me about it, though.
Also basically every Linux big name posted there. It was so great. I’m still sad it’s gone
It told me today that Harvard did research to show 165 degrees killed H1N1 in milk. The reference? Recommended cooking temp for chicken.
Trailer Trash be all like: “SEE AH TOLD Y’ALL IT WAS GOOD FOR THE BABY! GOOGLE DONE SAYS SO!!!”
Why do you hate the poor.
Why do you hate comedy?
Why do you hate… eh. Can’t be bothered. Need to take my clothes out of the washing machine.
That’s the spirit. All conflict in the world can be resolved by the crushing and inescapable weight of adult responsibilities.
That’s a good point, most major conflict is caused by people who make/pay/coerce people to do their adult responsibilities for them. 🤔
Chores…really do build character? Dad was right?! (Of course he was.)
Prob a reaction to punching down
As “down”, I hereby grant maculata retroactive permission to make the above joke; and formally proclaim that I found said joke to be at least somewhat amusing
Jokes on you, I just shifted to DDG last week.
This reminds me: I need to change my default search engine.
SearXNG: poor man’s Kagi (one seemingly reputable instance)
On iOS, I set my default search to DuckDuckGo, and enabled Hyperweb on the DDG domain to redirect to SearXNG. I use a Google Images bookmark saved as a favorite when I need images (SearXNG results inferior even when using Google as the sole engine).
I anecdotally suspect Kagi of astroturfing btw, but after some free trials it seems to be about the best Google alternative - gotta be [earning like] a [US-based] knowledge worker though, or really care about search.
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I’m kidddddding I’m kidding!
You’ve once again reminded me to properly catalog my comparison searches. Only one I could find in my screenshots:
I start with !ddgi but more than half the time hit it with a !gi bang to go over to the Alphabet Adware Image search. I swear I’m gonna catalog this stuff and then maybe it’ll be apparent:
- I do weird searches
- Google is search bubbling me even when I’m private browsing
- I’m misperceiving the frequency at which DDG image searches actually fail me
Or maybe my use cases are fairly normal and Goog really is superior, TBD!
One thing that keeps me coming back to Google is shopping, or searching for online stores, or searching for prices. The shopping tab is somewhat useful and I don’t know any other search engine that does it (because it’s barely a search engine thing tho)
you don’t even have to go to the shopping tab anymore… even if you’re just looking for information on something they mix in shopping results right at the top
google is gigantic piece of shit
I’ve been really liking Kagi. It’s been my default for about 5 months now.
Google AI search is certainly good for memes
vs Andi AI
This is especially interesting, considering he left Google 3 years ago, according to his website. It’s a bit misleading to put this old tweet up alongside a recent Google screenshot.
He posted about it on mastodon 7 days ago, so I don’t think it’s an old tweet. Maybe his personal website is just out of date? https://social.coop/@scottjenson/112468182058087636
Reminds me of a facebook reel in which allegedly a doctor recommends to drink at least 3-5 coffees a day
Me when self medicating adhd
Self-medicating ADHD sufferers recommend consuming 3-5 entire pots of coffee a day, and a treat of another 150-300mg before bed
Tbh 3 cups could still easily* be me while properly medicated.
I drank more coffee when I was taking Adderall than when I stopped.
That’s interesting. I wonder why that is.
Mine was a monster every two hours on my break. So much sugar and caffeine.
I think it is interesting to point out that AI will be good, maybe too good. It isn’t right now, it’s a novelty in the early stages of such mass adoption that a lot of the consequences are just starting to appear.
The phones owned by Gen A in 40 years will have a useful, realistic, and default AI assistant. It just sucks that the development of this technology is only driven by late-stage capitalism.
