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There were probably also other human-like primates at a similar time to Neanderthals and it stopped us from fucking other homo-sapiens who were dead or very obviously ill.
When we were a tribal species we were unlikely to travel much at all in our lifetime and encounter someone who looked different to us so this instinct would have been beneficial. But now that we’re a global species we encounter people who look different to us often and this same instinct, compounded with cultural prejudice is holding back our development. We must learn to deal with it and our long standing hate so that we can become more genetically diverse as a species and as a result improve the health and intelligence of our offspring https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/people-born-to-geneticallydiverse-parents-more-likely-to-be-taller-and-more-intelligent-says-study-10358706.html
Yep and they were called Neanderthals.
But Homo Sapiens readily breeded with not only the Neanderthals but the Denisovans as well
Some of them did. We all know a few people that would go ahead and fuck what the rest of us would be scared to go near. Those genes survived too.
If those genes didn’t exist, you can be pretty sure that lineage would be less likely to survive.
Drugs my friends. Drugs.
Huh?
I call this feeling “The Holy Spirit” and no I’m not religious, hear me out.
So there’s “The Father” which is you, in charge of everything.
Then there’s “The Son” which is your Jesus, the bit of you that does shit mostly perfectly without any input from you. The scary example of this is when you drive to work and can’t remember the drive at all. Jesus Take the wheel. Teach your Jesus right and you can trust he’ll do things fine.
Then The Holy Spirit, which is that part of you that sees everything, before the filters are applied, and let’s you know something is off. There’s no obvious reason for it, but there’s something off about this guy and we need to get away from him as soon as possible and never interact with them again.
The Jesus part is the important bit for most of us. Learning to play the guitar? Teach your Jesus. When you’ve practiced enough you can just trust that Jesus will hit the notes while you concentrate on singing along.
When I learned to Juggle I just taught my Jesus how to throw properly so it lands in the other hand.
At work I teach my Jesus how to do the manual labour, do the checks I need to do, and I can concentrate on ripping on my work colleagues.
The humanoids we evolved from were at one point, not the only humanoids around. We coexisted with other, different species (neanderthals being an example). Homosapien is just the one that survived.
This guy knows.
Yeah this is just leftover racism from a time when racism had a reason to exist.
I mean, racism has as much reason to exist now as it ever did. “I’ll protect me and what’s mine” has been the dividing line between species for thousands of years, and we have to choose whether we’ll continue it. A “Kill or be killed” mindset might keep you safe, but you’ll never know if the person you killed did indeed mean you harm, or if you could’ve instead lived without killing, and broke bread with a rival. The logic still applies
Or the biological need to be afraid of ourselves because if I saw a human standing in my backyard in the shadows I would be as scared as if it were an alien, humans aren’t a joke when they want to kill or maim and humans love to kill or maim if they need something you have
My brother accidentally cut his foot open with an axe about an hour ago. That’s how much humans love to maim. We do it idly as we work.
Yup. We’re least safe when we most think we’re safe. Architects of self fulfilling prophecies
I’m an engineer actually
That’s a hilarious reply, and I can’t think of a witty response to match it
Yeah that sounds like an architect XD
Fuckin’ savage.
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Or it’s just that something feels off, fellow human.
On the other hand, maybe because we’re a highly social species and some people are just crazy, which you see in their face or behavior.
You mostly see this in autistic or ADHD people, even if most of us aren’t dangerous.
That’s a unlucky side-effect of this instinct i think?
We still do. They’re called psychopaths. It’s been a problem for so long that we’ve evolved an instinctual response to it.
Have we though? We still vote for them and populate the business rooms with them…
…my theory is different. I think this is evolutionary back to competition with similar species.
“But in general, take my advice, when you meet anything that’s going to be Human and isn’t yet, or used to be Human once and isn’t now, or ought to be Human and isn’t, you keep your eyes on it and feel for your hatchet.”
May I ask where this is from?
The chronicles of Narnia, the lion the witch and the wardrobe. I think it’s the beaver talking about how the witch isn’t human?
Ok that makes more sense coming from a Christian book. I was wondering if they’d be hatcheting fetuses.
Am I seeing this right? Are you calling one of the defining works of Fantasy literature a “Christian book?”
Sacrifice the Lion for the good of everyone? It comes back from the dead… Not ringing any bells?
OMG I can’t believe my eyes! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_The_Chronicles_of_Narnia
Neanderthals and others existed contemporaneously didn’t they…
… but also, so many parts of our brain are needed to do facial recognition that we’re prone to seeing faces where there are none…
…so it’s possible that what we’re on the watch for is other humans trying to ambush us, which means regular people hiding = uncanny valley = fear.
Alternate theory: The human brain is reacting to unfamiliarity and not alien features. We strongly associate Uncanny Valley with things not-quite human but it’s my thinking that it’s a tribal thing. Nowadays we see a ton of faces of all variations but I bet when we were hunter gatherers, we only saw features of our own tribe. The moment you meet another tribe, I’d bet this response is to create fear of the unrecognized human. It’s also probably there as a punishment mechanism for us seeing faces in everything.
The times that the uncanny effect hit hardest is when you think something is human or is a face potentially before finding out you’re wrong. So that’s my basis for thinking its there to keep us from being mistaken.
I was thinking of the Denisovans
Don’t forget Bigfoot, the rake, and skin walkers.
not to mention el chupacabra
edit: dammit I mentioned him
Yes. A dead body.
I just wanted one funny meme before bed not nightmare fuel but here we go
Look in your shower.
Our instincts draw from pretty far back in our biological origins as well. The notion of mimiclike predators is pretty damned ancient and likely a factor for very earliest common ancestry.
Mimiclike predators sound like psychopaths. Which, very much would be a reason we evolved uncanny valley, but they learned to blend in.
There’s also the concept of gender blindness until it became necessary to differentiate between groups and eventually people.
Sorta like the story of the color blue.
Psychopath isn’t a real mental disorder, it’s just Latin for mentally ill person.
Psychopath is derived from Ancient Greek… And even besides that, laymen generally use the term to describe ASPD despite the two conditions not being entirely the same. Don’t be obtuse.
Yes, I’m aware that the word has been used as a slur against people with ASPD and other mental illnesses, what’s your point?
Hey man as long as you behave prosocially, it’s none of my business what your emotional life is like.
The best non-DSM category for socio/psychopath I’ve come across is the lack of affective empathy, but intact cognitive empathy. (non-DSM because that’s just symptom clusters not aetiologies, you quite literally need to have broken laws to be diagnosed with ASPD). Then you have a look at what skills are useful to have as a surgeon, like not flinching when you cut into people, and their character traits including their bedside manners, yep there’s plenty of perfectly integrated psychopaths around. Same goes for pyromaniacs fire departments are full of them, you only ever hear about the ones who don’t get the curve.
