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    who would do such unholy thing like posting porn… I think it’s time to check if it is bad for the children brb

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    It’s pretty rude to come into a new community and the first thing you do is complain. Not everyone is as obsessed with avoiding communist thoughts as much as US-Americans. Deal with it. As for NSFW: just switch it off.

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      Right now it’s somewhat of a neutral ground with heavy commie and leftist leanings. I’d like to keep politics out of subs that aren’t related to politics but I ain’t holding my breath.

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        It comes up in non-political communities when people make political posts (like this one) but that seems fair game. I don’t really see people shoe-horning it in much otherwise.

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      When you’re coming from a strict ban on nearly all communist speech, an increase to communists getting to talk sometimes can look like too much.

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    Are they too dumb to uncheck the “show NSFW” button in settings? It was the same in Reddit idk. Can’t do much about Communism, but at least the Lenin porn is blocked.

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    My only nsfw complaint so far is I don’t know how to allowlist some instead of blocklist all.

    I’d prefer the option to find ones I’m okay with and seeing those few in my feed than have to have ALL on and block them one by one.

    If that’s an option I am not yet aware of the how.

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      Lemmy actually has two different “trending” feeds. Active, which seems to show posts that are getting more comments, and Hot, which seems more focused on votes. You probably have Active selected by default. Turns out porn gets lots of upvotes but doesn’t generate a lot of conversation.

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        I’ve just checked both active and hot (and for what it’s with, also checked new and and the other options). No porn or nsfw posits in at least the first several screenfulls of scrolling through “all”

        Show nsfw is turned on on my account settings.

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      What ‘my friends’ have done is make an acct on lemmynsfw and one on ml, the apps allow you you to swap between accounts in 2 button presses. (Jeroba for me). So I have porn mode and doom scrolling mode.

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    It’s one thing to be a communist; it’s another to be an apologist for the CCP.

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      Liberals try to understand political nuance challenge: Impossible!

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        Where’s the nuance in simping for an authoritarian state-capitalist regime? It’s like the people who unironically think the DPRK is more democratic than the US.

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          I’m going to let you re-read the comments and think harder about how to re-interpret them.

          I believe in you. Unless you’re a liberal, then you proved my point.

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      Americans want socialism. This is spun as “communism” to distract and distort the argument.

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          Communist and socialist terms have been conflated for a long time.

          See https://existentialcomics.com/comic/123 for an illustration.

          Communists believe in abolition of capitalism through communist revolution and eventually want to reach a Communist society. Given that such vision has not actually happened yet, Communists often support Actually Existing Socialism (AES).

          Socialism is some varying degree in between that and capitalism. On the one hand, there are democratic socialists like Bernie. On the other, there’s also AES countries (e.g. USSR, China).

          (P.S. If any other communists see any problems, feel free to correct my mistakes.)

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            I’m gonna leave out utopian communism because it’s not what we’re talking about and isn’t really relevant.

            Communists are working toward a classless, stateless society. Viewing the world through the lens of class struggle, they see the state as a tool of class repression and seek to use it to get to that stateless classless society. Its important here to recognize that communists want to use the tools of capitalism to develop the productive forces on the way.

            Socialism is worker control of the means of production.

            Social democracy is a set of policies enacted by bourgeois societies to keep people from revolting.

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            Isn’t this the comic where Marx is playing Monopoly, starts losing and Flips the fuck out the table?

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            While democratic socialism is a variety of socialism, Bernie isn’t really a democratic socialist, but a social democrat. Social democracy is the left of capitalism, which is right of socialism in any form.

            Before some moron turns up, Nazism is not socialism.

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              In general, I find the term “democratic socialism” to be pretty cringe. It’s like saying right up front “I’m not like those OTHER socialists!” Socialism is a liberatory project. Socialism is the auto-emancipation of the working class. THAT is what democracy looks like. Rule of the people.

              Liberation comes hand in hand with revolution though. Socialism will certainly NOT be very democratic for the people who own vast amounts of real estate, productive machinery, and propaganda media empires. Those people will certainly need to end up on the wrong side of a gun for the project to succeed. The wise ones among them won’t force us to pull the trigger.

              It will be a hostile take-over. It will be a break from the constitutional order. It will be a break from the “rule of law.” When the ruling class starts losing the game, they will flip over the table. All your precious civil liberties will be torn to shreds. Fascism is simply capitalism under crisis.

              The Liberals commit themselves to playing by the rules even when the fascists never would. Salvador Allende (the world’s first elected Marxist head of state) tried to do this, and in three years it ended in his death and a fascist military dictatorship. There is no room for idealism in revolution. The stakes are very real. You need to crush your enemies by any means necessary. Maybe you don’t give Rupert Murdoch the freedom of speech. Maybe you don’t respect Jeff Bezos’s property rights. Maybe you stuff all the Groypers into a mineshaft.

              A lot of people whine about authoritarianism in the English speaking left, but the English-speaking left has no power to speak of. Just a bunch of very online sectarians bickering. We run around trying to cancel internet forums which amount to little more than fucking book clubs, as if they were the embodiment of high Stalinism.

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                Wow, I disagree with every single word of this. You seem to be saying that it’s worth sacrificing liberal rights to attack the right (which you are falsely claiming to be fascists - fascism is a specific ideology, not just an insult for anyone on the right). But in doing so, you become worse than the right.

                As a social democrat, I am willing to support and ally with democratic socialists. While we have some differences, we’re both pulling in the same direction. Your revolutionary leftism, on the other hand, is further beyond the pale for me than any liberal ideology.

                If this is what your project requires to succeed, then may your project fail.

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                  A theoretical question: How do you think social democratic politics could be implemented in a peripheral or semi-peripheral country? In the core countries, it’s evident that successful social democracies are built not only on national resources but also on the exploitation of the periphery and semi-periphery, through which corporations and capitalists generate profits which are then taxed back into the country. So, what would make a social democratic world fairer than other forms of capitalism? There have been attempts to implement social democratic economies in peripheral regions, for instance, the often-mentioned Venezuela and Bolivia are much closer to the Norwegian economic model than to Cuba.
                  What could a peripheral social democratic government do at all if, after winning an election, the capitalists would simply withdraw their capital from the country and/or sabotage the government, while using their media to portray every measure taken by the government in a negative light?

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          Communism entails the collective ownership and administration of all means of production and the absence of social classes, while socialism advocates for worker control over means of production within a democratic society, allowing for some individual ownership and social stratification.

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            I agree with what you’ve said. That’s how I saw it too. Communism is the last stage, while Socialism is a transition period, as a Communist friend once told me. P.S. WTF am I getting downvoted for asking a question?

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            In addition, there are different levels of socialism. “Some” individual ownership turns people off. “The State owns the house I worked so hard to pay off?” You can have full private ownership of your things AND have single-payer health care, top-tier public education, reining in predatory banks, etc. We want to be Norway, not Venezuela.

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              Your government is directly responsible for Venezuela’s instability. Your government’s entire foreign policy is destabilizing different parts of the world to float the Dollar as the main currency and you the citizens benefit the most from it, this is why I cringe inwardly when Americans complain of Capitalism’s adverse effects, if you enjoyed it while it was good, you must enjoy it while it gets bad.

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                As a venezuelan, no. What happened and still happens here was the sole responsibility of the socialist party’s government and the ultimate reason why I don’t trust leftists as they don’t own up their failures and just disregard them as “not true socialism”

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                  The government of Venezuela isn’t blameless but to think that American sanctions didn’t affect the Venezuelan economy are the words of a true partisan. Your kind set up piano wire and beheaded civilians on motor bikes in Venezuela and I find that despicable.

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        Most Americans definitely do not want socialism. People simply want things to be affordable, and be able to live with the social services we need readily available, and to have the freedom to do what they want. That’s not socialism, that’s a well functioning democracy with a strong economy.

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      Fuck China, and fuck the United States I live in. The nations of the Nordic region and a few other developed nations have my respect because they respect and value their citizenry. Their economy is a tool that is used to facilitate the distribution of goods and services for the benefit of their society and its citizens, what an economy is supposed to be, instead of doing it ass backwards as we do, hurting citizens to protect the beloved fucking economy and the growth/metastasis expectations of the owner class.

      China/The US/Russia are the world leaders in exporting the notion that their citizens should be exploited to stoke the growth of the economy for the benefit of their respective elites. Whoever wins, their people lose.

      Why should I go rah rah America when most stakeholders in our society are not meaningful institutional shareholders in the value society produces?

      https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/18/the-wealthiest-10percent-of-americans-own-a-record-89percent-of-all-us-stocks.html

      It shouldn’t be about saying simon says or coming out of a rich vagina or if not making perfect economic decisions and kissing ass from age 18, begging to be included and killing yourself for masters who were born into wealth for a small chance of being included in the prosperity of the prosperous nation you’re supposedly a member of.

      And don’t you just love the class traitors here that come out to celebrate the failures of citizens who tried? oh you took out student loans in a subject that in hindsight didn’t pay dividends, haha loser. Oh you just started working and didnt get an education and are stuck in the underclass, haha loser. That’s what it means to be an American, rooting against one another as the owner class laughs.

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      I’m having an easier time arguing with tankies then I did with right wingers. Right wingers don’t even believe themselves, so they shift the goal posts around to suit their needs.

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        Oh, I saw the futility of talking to them lonnnnnnnnng ago. You might as well try to convince a christian that they’re wrong. You know why that is? Because they’re both cults.

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    Fortunately, it’s going away as more and more moderates and non-political people come in from reddit. A tiny tiny majority of people are actual communists even though it looked like the exact opposite in here for a while.

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      Yeah, not everyone wants to deal with the bullshit and legal ramifications. Shit like this is why this place is going to be difficult to grow.

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        What legal ramifications? Last I checked, neither porn nor communism was illegal anywhere except a few places with totalitarian governments that block all social media anyway…

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            Yeah, because all porn is child porn 🙄

            Of the hundreds of times your parents dropped you on your head as a child, how many would you say were deliberate?

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              So when pornhub decided that uploading your own unverified content was too difficult because of illegal porn pissing off a good chunk of the user base and creators, you think they did that for shits and giggles?

              Fuck dude you need moderators. Those moderators need policy and reporting. If you allow users to upload porn you will, not if, be forced to address illegal porn.

              So unless the mods are actively reporting and removing them yes they are going to have a bad fucking time jackass. Think through the issue a bit more rather then running your mouth with personal attacks.

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                You said it yourself: “you need moderators”

                The rest of what you said was either irrelevant, restating that point, or just lashing out.

                That unmoderated porn on a large platform is risky at best is completely obvious to even you.

                Equally obvious to just about everyone else is that, given adequate common sense moderating, porn isn’t inherently a legal liability and it sure as hell doesn’t automatically turn into child porn like you so hysterically leapt right to when I first pointed out how alarmist you were being 🤦

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                  The is a big difference between a paid moderator and setting yourself up for legal liability trusting randoms to do it for free. Reddit has a extremely active paid team that would aggressively review this types of posts. Reddit activity searched out content and forced porn mods to study on that shit.

                  You have no clue what you are talking about.

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    Create 2 accounts. One for daily reading with NSFW turned off, and another account with NSFW content for one handed reading. Problem solved.

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      The only trouble is that not everything NSFW is porn. Your suggestion only works if you never want to see things like potentially-disturbing news articles, fail videos where somebody gets injured, etc. either. (Or if you’re a sicko who gets off on that stuff too, I suppose!)

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    There are a lot of commies here. I don’t particularly like them but that is there right and lemmy is not and should not be pro-censorship. If somepeople don’t like them they should find an instance that suits you better.

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      There are alot of people who are pissed off about the current system here. Makes sense, since these would be the people who are willing to push through the growing pains of the fediverse to remove themselves from corporate centralized sites.

      For example, I’m not necessarily a communist, since I am not convinced it’s the best alternative to our version of capitalism in America; but I will agree with the communists when they say we need to replace our broken system with something better.

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        I agree too. The problem is many communist are actually Russian propagandists. There, they “really” think communism is a viable option. But openly discussing this stuff without bias? That would be awesome. Also probably not happening

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            You’re right. For a while Russia might have been considered a “regular” capitalist society following the cold war, at least by popular opinion in the west, but they’ve driven further and further into kleptocracy and facism. Of course, facism can be wrapped in a capitalist or communist flag. One may be a better breeding ground for facism but it can root anywhere.

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            True. But there’s this kind of nostalgia for communism and what started the revanchism of the late '90s in KGB officials and Putin that stopped Russia’s evolution in a free country. Kind of sad, they have now the worst of both worlds

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            Man anti-communism propaganda is so ingrained yet they still don’t know how real communism work (not saying is good though). Same as using facism for anything red-wing.

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      The only nsfw thing ive seen on lemmy was on lemmynsfw, afaik you can’t see nsfw without being a part of that instance. Not sure what people are complaining about

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        If you browse the all feed you can see nsfw posts as long as your instance is federated with the nsfw ones. That’s if you have nsfw enabled on your account though, which you can turn off.

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          I would assume sh.itjust.works isn’t with them then, because i literally have never once seen naything nsfw on c/all

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            I just checked and y’all only have 4 blocked instances and lemmynsfw isn’t one of them. You may just have NSFW turned off in your account settings.

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            It’s definitely there. Sorting by Hot a lemmynsfw post is the 12th or so post on All right now.

            I sort by Top Day though and basically never run into NSFW posts in the wild.

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      There doesn’t appear to be much on lemmy.ml or lemmy.world (or at least it isn’t popular enough to show up in the Active, Hot, or Top feed), but if you select “All” instead of “Subscribed” or “Local,” stuff from instances like lemmynsfw.com etc. will start showing up.

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          Yeah, I tended to stay away on Reddit, too. I find myself selecting it often here, though, because there isn’t enough content yet for Local and Subscribed to show new posts often enough.

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            I usually hover between c/news and c/politics which has a lot of content. Once football season gets going I’ll be on c/nfl and c/cfb a lot too. The pet themed communities are also thriving so that is there too. What communities are lacking quality content? My RSS engine pulls in a few thousand items an hour, I might be able to contribute.

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              I’m subscribed to 50+ communities, so I won’t list them all here. A lot of my interests are relatively niche (stuff like Linux/FOSS, DIY, bicycling/urbanism, etc.) so it isn’t that surprising that some of the related communities seem to be averaging between a post a week and a post a day so far, since Lemmy as a whole isn’t all that big yet. (It could also be that I haven’t found the most popular community for a given topic yet, especially if it’s on a different Lemmy instance.)

              My subscribed feed being overly dominated by c/politics, c/world and c/technology (the communities I’m subscribed to that do have lots of content) might be part of the problem too.

              My RSS engine

              You wouldn’t happen to have a Pastbin or Gist or something about it, would you? I’m curious about how to set up a similar thing for myself.