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    Wow, they really went all in alienating their user base.

    What the fuck actually happened behind the scenes to cause all this? Like I get that some upper leadership is probably trying to cash out or something, but why? What is the motivation? What changed all of a sudden to cause this?

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        People still use Google? I thought many of us, and specially in tech using platforms like this, left it behind years ago. But maybe not as many as I think.

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          Alphabet’s market cap is 1.5 trillion dollars. How do you suppose their stock is worth so much if people are not using google? Ads are their primary source of revenue.

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            Duckduckgo has worked wonders for me, the app has a search widget as well.

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                DuckDuckGo can search using almost any search engine anonymously. Want to search Bing? !b query. Google? !g query. Scratch this, I remembered wrong what those do.
                I do believe there’s a setting to aggregate the top results from several different engines as the default search algorithm.

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              Don’t forget about bangs for searching alternate sites: https://duckduckgo.com/bangs !w = wikipedia, !e = ebay, !zillow = guess, !r = reddit, etc

              Just put your bang in front of the rest of the search you want to do on that site: !g why doesn’t Google use bangs? !ddg Why does Duck Duck Go use bangs?

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            Kagi is not only decent but much better. It’s fantastic. I switched when it was new and never looked back.

            Try a few searches with both Kagi and Google and you should see quite different results.

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                Lol that’s a wild concept. $5 for 300 searches… so now when I go down a rabbit hole I have to count my searches.

                Also, that gives them perverse incentives. If they make searching just a little frustrating they can get more searches out of you = more money. That’s not right.

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        I’ve found I miss the old days of searching. Granted there was certainly far less to look through, but back when there were many different search engines trying to find the best algorithm to use, you could get programs that would query all the ones you added in the list and then sort them out, removing duplicate finds. First page always had great results. Although I admit I’d often just go use Hotbot and get solid hits too. Google later absorbed Hotbot’s database.

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      Yeah… whenever I wnted to find something on Reddit, I would use Google with reddit as a keyword

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      I was going to say… the only times I ever used Reddit search, it just prompted me to question why I was wasting my time, then googling “xyz problem statement reddit”

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        I wonder why it sucked so much? I’m no expert in terms of crafting a search engine, but Reddit has not lacked funds for some years now

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          I always assumed that it increased engagement. Can’t find what you’re searching for? Put up a post asking (even though someone’s already asked that question 1,000 times).

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          The answer is always money. Did the awful search stop you from using reddit? No? Why would they spend money to fix it?

          This logic applies to every business in a capitalist economy.

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        If not, soon.

        The big thing will be consolidating all that useful information stuck on there to somewhere search engine readable.

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          What’d be the feasibility of making a search engine, that actually works, to search for only reddit? Without all the bullshit.

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            Eh? I lemme rewind a bit.

            Reddit has a lot of info. Have you wonder why nowadays to do a proper Google search people tag on “reddit” at the end to bypass SEO bullshit?

            What I’m saying is it’d be nice if we can get most of that info moved over to the fediverse. It’s brought up cuz a lot of groups are moving to discord which can’t be searched.

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              Okay, yeah, I’m out of the loop with all the SEO stuff. Thinking about it, yeah jve had to do that a bit.

              I didn’t realise. My bad.

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        Well we all knew old.reddit was going to die, they told us they will eventually shut it down, ever since redesign.