Bloody hell. They’re not holding back their anger, are they?
I think it’s part of the “landed gentry” theme Spez started.
Just leave, ffs. It’s annoying that in the end of the day people still remain in droves. The only hope is that reddit drives itself into being unusable.
The only hope for what? Is the end goal that Reddit dies or that lemmy gains in popularity?
Sort of, really people want to have a non hostile relationship with websites, reddit is a comical example of corprate instincts being misaligned with that desire
Spez will be seen as the animal that learned bad behavors and went savage
Edit: And how people wont put up with it
I feel like saying “Just leave” to the protesters is akin to telling people protesting Trump as president: “Just leave for Canada. You working and living in USA is just making more tax money for Trump.”
Leaving Reddit or leaving a country or not comparable
For some poor addicted sods, leaving the app might be harder.
We’re never going to reach the addicted, but there are likely plenty of people who would jump ship if they just knew a little more about lemmy.
I’ve made the switch to Lemmy and it wasn’t easy. Now that I understand the way the federated thing works I get it but, honestly I was confused.
The only thing that I miss is search. I don’t know if it’s my app or what but there’s no way, I can find, to search through posts on Lemmy.
That will get fixed soon, I’m sure. This thing is new.
If that’s your criteria for staying, I don’t think search was ever fixed in Reddit, though! 😂 Measure with the same ruler!
No, my criteria for staying is that it works on an app that isn’t Reddit
Scale is irrelivant, he is compairing the (social) dynamics at play
I think there is a difference between uprooting your entire life to move to a foreign country, and deleting an app
Nobody is deinying that, and I assume he was being extreme for the point,
but social capital is werry mutch a thing
This is more like protesting Walmart while shopping there daily. Reddit directly benefits from the continued traffic.
i dont know how eager the advertisers are about advertising next to a canvas where the nicest message is fuck the CEO of that place. Twitter is struggling to get advertisers on board with how much of a fuckup Musk is as a CEO. Spez says that Musk is his idol and advertisers dont want a right wing cesspool filled with threats of violence and hatred to have their products right next to. And that is easier to enforce with a relatively small side like reddit, as opposed to facebook or instagram.
It’s because they don’t know any better. The average redditor isn’t exactly super smart, and half of them are even stupider than that!
ayy
I’ve removed my modded Sync from my home screen and replaced it with Voyager for Lemmy until Sync for Lemmy is ready. This r/place BS is pathetic.
There are also mods and admins by passing the timers and abusing to place more pixels again
Still engagement.
c/places when?
There are websites that do what place does but better. Maybe we should just partner with one and have our own.
With obligatory blackjack and hookers.
asking the real questions
Redditors on their way to do everything except stop using reddit.
I’ve gotten a few people to switch
These people cannot control themselves. They’re protesting a company by making them money.
The people you want to get off reddit are (shock) on reddit. While it makes reddit money in the short term, it spreads the word to people that aren’t aware. Short term gain for hopefully long term loss.
This is also why I don’t mind the John Oliver stuff. It’s interesting for now, but it will get boring. I just hope it doesn’t get stupid like what happened on r/aww
I’m a bit out of the loop, what happened on r/aww?
They decided to go John Oliver only too, except people are now posting normal content and just putting a small John Oliver somewhere in the original picture.
“It’s not about the money. It’s about sending a message.”
Sending a message costs money.
If you have an adblocker and/or other privacy browser plugins how do they make any money from you? If anything, you’ve wasted some bandwidth and server cycles, so you cost them money.
I suppose an argument could be made that by adding to it you’ve created some tiny bit of content someone without adblockers might be enticed to see.
by adding to it you’ve created some tiny bit of content
It’s sort of hard to visualize the split between collective and individual. If a prolific user decides to stop using reddit, reddit maybe becomes 0.001% worse. It doesn’t sound like a lot on its own, but when millions do it… it becomes significant.
A little becomes a lot. If a significant chunk of reddit just decided to stop using the site, reddit would lose a lot of money.
Remember when reddit traffic was down like 3% a couple weeks ago? Let’s say traffic to reddit and the money reddit gets from advertisers are strongly correlated. So if traffic drops 50%, they get 50% less money from ads.
It’s probably not exactly the same, especially during a short time span like a week, but just for the sake of discussion.
With an annual revenue of $350 million in 2021, they avered $29 million a month and $7 million a week. What’s 3% of $7 million? About $210k
$210k is not much for a company like reddit, but it’s a significant amount of money. Now imagine we increase the traffic drop by a factor of 3 and increase the length of time down up to a month. We’re talking $1.6 million.
That hurts. And it could start a downwards spiral. Prolific users leave and there’s less content so there’s less reason for users to come back. Which causes less content and so on
Unfortunately, I think the majority of redditors have probably moved on from the whole API affair. We still see “fuck spez” like for example in the /r/place but unless reddit creates another scandal in the near future they should be able to recover from this.
We simply don’t have the numbers to hurt reddit so I say go ahead and use /r/place without guilt if you want to
Apparently it’s app only, which can’t easily be adblocked
I’m pretty sure there’s revanced patches for that?
Revanced has a patch for the official app.
you can use it in a browser on desktops
If you are using an account in their service, they still have at least some data about you, which they can sell to third-parties under some conditions (unless they changed that part of their privacy policy). It’s probably not a lot, but it adds up I guess.
They make them money because:
- they use reddit
- spez gets some nice usage stats to show off
- as a direct consequence, advertisers keep paying to put their ads
- also as a direct consequence, investors’ confidence in reddit continues to recover; there’s a real possibility that, when it IPOs, it will actually go for a decent price
Now, if enough people go commit ad-block, and advertisers somehow become wise to that fact… then maybe it will hurt reddit’s bottom line (at which point spez will start trying to emulate youtube’s anti-ad stuff).
But as it stands, especially if most of reddit’s usage is through reddit’s mobile app… I’m not really sure how you can block ads there.
Those are fair points. Regarding adblock in the official app, you can use ReVanced to patch an .apk similar to how you block ads in YouTube.
thank you for the info, noted, incredibly based
thank you for the info, noted, incredibly based
(at which point spez will start trying to emulate youtube’s anti-ad stuff).
I’m curious. What’s Youtube’s anti-ad stuff? I don’t remember the last time I saw an ad on Youtube.
Youtube has been talking a lot recently about implementing a 3 strike system against adblock users
I’ll go without youtube before i watch their shitty ads. Unobtrusive ads, fine. Contextual ads instead of invasive behavioral ads, maybe. But the current system is trash and they can fuck off.
You can’t go to place on a mobile browser. It pops up a message that you have to use the app or a desktop browser.
I was able to get there via mobile browser. Reddit has said that they’ve been testing disabling mobile reddit for some people but not all.
The theory is that their July traffic numbers are probably down so they’re boosting them with /r/place traffic so that the drop due to 3rd party apps doesn’t look as bad to investors. Reddit probably sees the increased server costs as an investment to boost their IPO valuation.
Aren’t there third parties that track website visits?
I was curious but couldn’t find any stats for Reddit over the past couple weeks. Google trends was slightly up… but that isn’t really users. (My search also made Google trends go up by 1)
Does some individuals love circlejerking so much they’d GIVE AWAY money for it? Why yes they would.
I still remember how much fun the 2022 r/Place was. Now it feels kinda sad to watch the current one
Especially since it happened right after they killed apps from the third party
They did this to try and make people happy
They did this to pump engagement numbers so they can try to resurrect their IPO. They couldn’t care less if people are happy.
we asked for bread and they gave us this circus
We made clown sandwiches
Two words. Get out!
Reddit will not last.
LOL. You made me chuckle.
Based.
based
Tubular.
And guillotine-pilled
I don’t understand why they’d do another round of place at a time like this. Like wtf did they think would happen?
If you read the r/place guidelines you must use the mobile app to participate. Hence everyone who is jumping in, even to mock spez, are stupidly doing exactly what reddit wants. Adopt their app. This is purely to get people to join their shit app
You can use new.Reddit.com.
Lol no fuckin way
It works fine in a desktop web browser. No app required.
Hm I just read this post and figured they’d be telling the truth.
r/place is only available on our mobile apps (iOS and Android) and new Reddit. The new r/place features we are introducing this year are only on our mobile apps and moderators can opt out of these if they want to.
Seems I missed the new reddit part but it’s just as bad as the app.
You also have to register an email for the account to participate
You can use a simplelogin/annonaddy alias and yeet it once you’re done.
They do everything to up the engagement by any means necessary, so they can say that there were no big impact on traffic after blackouts. And it works. It doesn’t matter that people go there out of hatred, they still end up as traffic
Probably to drive user interaction back up.
Precisely.
They don’t care what the users make. They care that user interaction numbers are back up.
Spez is the scapegoat. The ownership of Reddit knows what they’re doing and spez is simply the idiot willing to (poorly) do what he’s told.
Is he really an idiot? He’s making plenty of money, and demonstrating that even the people who hate his company the most cannot stop putting money in it’s pockets.
Reddit would NEVER scapegoat their company president! The very idea!
It’s a tiny fraction, damn near a rounding error, of people involved compared to Reddit user base though.
@Ertebolle Voici la grande peur!
Vive la révolution! ✊
It’s also being griefed using obvious bots. Every 30 seconds or so the entire blade gets blocked out by a perfect checkerboard pattern done all at once. Or a perfect square will get whited out. Either spez is directing it or some reddit fanboy is defending his honor with a bot army
That’s the moderators of place doing that.
I consider r/place mods and spez to be the same group. I really just mean that it could be either an official action by reddit-affiliated person or could be bots run by someone who just dickrides spez, just trying to disclaim that obvious manipulation doesn’t necessarily mean it’s reddit’s doing.
For every person who rides spez’s dick there’s a hundred that hate him. There would be more bots drawing things.
Can bots even function on place now?
Web scraping bots can
God bless them
The placed pixels don’t have a username associated with them. The bot drawings are done with obviously fake accounts, but each pixel still has an account.
I’m willing to bet the moderators of r/place aren’t doing it/are glad it’s taking this direction and/or the former mods of r/place were removed by cum-guzzling bootlicking admins who are now forcefully whitewashing reddit users’ contributions.
