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    Now think, patents are similar things but for with more money. And imagine if someone else had similar idea and made slightly similar website you go sue them coz you had the idea first.

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      Just buy it for ten years. You’re ultimately saving money and it’ll give you more time to incubate your dream!

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      I’d be tempted to buy that. When you visit it’s just a white page with a leather couch in the middle of the screen, everytime you click the couch it would moan seductively and every fifth click would give a squelch sound.

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        I used noip.com for like 30 or 60 days. Then I got really annoyed at having to renew the DDNS every 30 days. After switching to duckdns.org I haven’t had any problems whatsoever. It’s completely free and you don’t have to renew anything manually. You obliviously still need to have a script running to update the DDNS though, otherwise it wouldn’t be very dynamic would it.

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        Same with the HP mini PC. But I have a $12/yr dotcom domain and a script on my server updates the DNS record anytime the IP changes.

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          Yes, of course, but that mini PC uses 15 watts maximum. My main PC uses way more that that

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        My mail lived on an Intel atom based mini itx machine for years. I wanted to play with breakup by replication and bought a cheap shell. Now the cheap shell is my only mail server

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        Selling? I host things for myself, not others. Except my Lemmy instance I suppose, that’s public.

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      This is the way. I would be lost without a domain. Even mail is selfhosted with my domain. But I only use subdomains, the real domain is abandoned.

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        See email is one of the few things I don’t host. I host a webmail frontend, and use my domain. But PurelyMail is an amazing service that’s so cheap it’s basically free at personal scale with very few limits. I didn’t really care to try and deal with having all my mail sent to spam.

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          Been with purely mail for about a year and it’s been great!

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          I just use stalwart - mail, it’s just one docker container, has bleeding edge functions like jmap and there is no need of deeper knowledge. I refer my domain on the settings and got a list of all needed dns-records.

          It takes 2-4 days to get SSL and dmarc answers from the big mail-players and if there is nothing wrong with your IP or your records then there is no mail going into spam of someone else.

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    You know what’s worse? Starting a successful one that makes a whole ass salary and then having google updates smack it the f out.

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    On the flip side my husband has held on to the domain he got for 22 YEARS., and never did anything with it. We finally got our emails up and running with it last week. Don’t let your dreams be dreams!

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      Out of curiosity; who is providing the mail service? Or are you self-hosting? Trying to organise mine, hoping I can get it done maybe 19 years quicker.

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        I use Hover. They’re based in Canada and I’ve been using them for years for my business domain and email. Was an easy choice for personal too. Every time I’ve had to call the tech support they have fixed the problem super fast, did extra stuff, and were super lovely. $20 a year for a small mailbox each, which is more than enough for us.

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        I self host email. Email is easy. I went a tad overboard with database configuration, a configuration/password change program, a few virtual hosts so I can renew six different names, but a single domain on a Linux box (any flavour) is easy

        It makes it easy to make a bespoke email address for every entity you interact with, or show them the respect they deserve by giving your valid email spam@your.domain.tld

        It is a bit of a hobby though. You need to keep up with email security if you want to send to anyone.

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        I just set my domain email up with Zoho. Was easy enough and they have a free option. Although I pay $1.25/mo per user for two users, just to get a little extra storage space and be able to use SMTP and ActiveSync to send email from my servers for notifications and use a different mobile app than their default one.

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    This whole thread is a gem. So many amazing websites. It’s inspired me to make a website and hopefully be a repo for all your websites like the old internet

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      Is this the sticker of a hobby that you want to be part of?

      MY FUCKING WEBSITE DOESN’T EVEN HAVE CAT BAGS FOR SALE WHAT WAS I THINKING?

      Buy a God Damn Cat Bag

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    ok genuine question from someone who wants to make a website but has no experience in it other than a HTML class and doesn’t want to resort to a cushy GUI based website maker, How do I make a website? I’m not talking about the HTML, I got that part down. I’m talking about how do I actually get a domain and host? I tried doing it and got like a $5 domain, but the host was like $30 for a year which was too much for me and couldn’t figure out how to selfhost with my extremely limited knowledge. Is that just what it costs to have a website or is there an easier way?

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      $5 for a domain and $30 for a year of hosting is actually very cheap for a simple starter website.

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      First off, it’s important to understand Responsive Design responsive design and why you shouldn’t be writing your own css these days as a newbie. Bootstrap is a public css doc with a lot of those problems pre-solved, so you might want to look up some of their tooling.

      As far as a website: you’ll need a domain name, you can get some for free, but they usually have short renewals otherwise this is unavoidable.

      You can pay for “shared hosting” at any of the major vendors like blue host or GoDaddy and get apache or aspx file hosting for like you said $X0/year.

      You can use an s3 static website for ~free. Creating a DNS hosted zone is $.50. but you can create an s3 bucket (think flash drive in the cloud) store a threshold of free documents, and publish them as a website all within the free tier of AWS. This has some technical background and AWS can get expensive of you make mistakes (although this shouldn’t scale much unless you upload a thousands ton of files repeatedly)

      Alternatively you can use GitHub pages . Git is a tool used by developers to share and edit code, they let you publish free HTML as well, but requires learning git or figuring out a tool with a UI like source tree. I don’t think you can use custom domains with this though.

      Although if you have any interest in tech, you can also create a free nginx docker container through a lot of services like ecs, but you can also self host in a “sandbox”. Docker creates a mini virtual machine with all of the code required to run self contained. Nginx let’s you create HTML docker containers by mounting a directory. ~ docker start nginx /website/directory And it just runs self contained.

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      For hosting check out something like github pages. There several other free ones as well, but pages looks like the easiest to set up. If you want something more robust, you could look into Netlify or Vercel, but that’s gonna require a little more know-how.

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      It depends on how fancy of a website you are trying to make. But check out something like Hugo or Jekyll. I haven’t used Jekyll personally but have used Hugo. There are plenty of templates to get you started depending the type of content you are planning on putting up.

      And the best part is you can host the site for free on GitHub or Gitlab, so the domain name is the only cost.

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      You could give a flat file CMS like Grav a shot. It’s basically like a wiki system for running a site. There’s also a slow burn up a hill of complexity where you do LAMP with PHP then you gravitate to things like express.js then Electron and then you roll poorly on your sanity check and end up naked in a bell tower.

      Insert that bell curve meme where it’s wordpress on both sides.

      For self hosting, pick up docker and understand that then go for portainer - it makes making mistakes in the arena super easy to scrub away. I suggest Synology NAS.

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      Self host isn’t that bad. Say you have a raspberry pi. Install linux on the pi (basically the only thing to do with it), then google how to set up a LAMP server (Linux, Apache, Mysql, Php/python). Once you’ve followed all the steps they list then now you have a web server. To get it out on the internet log into your router and port forward for HTTP and now anyone can see that glorious Apache default web page.

      Then for a domain just find the first domain register and buy the domain from them. Once you own a domain point it towards your IP address (just google what is my IP) and you’re set.

      Your web page is now on the internet and anyone can type a nice name to get to your page. Anyone can also use any exploits then find so you have to make sure you’re keeping up updating your devices. And every port you forward is an intrusion point into your network should someone want to hack you.

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        Anyone can also use any exploits then find so you have to make sure you’re keeping up updating your devices. And every port you forward is an intrusion point into your network should someone want to hack you.

        This is the part that scares the shit out of me. I bought a domain with the intention of making a little web 1.0 website for fun and to learn, but I have no real idea what I’m doing and the security risk makes it a non-starter :(

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          If you’re hosting a basic web 1.0 website you’re gonna be pretty safe. Just install Apache and call it a day. As long as there’s no exploits in apache and you only port forward for basic HTTP theres very little to go wrong. Plus realistically, whos gonna want to hack your site?

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    On one hand I have my personal firstname-lastname-dot-com I’m still hosting for years. I’m not a webdev but WordPress is awfully bloated and everything else needs a touch of webdev skills.

    So it’s been at “coming soon I’m working on it welcome to sample example theme page” for years, but hey it’s indexing well based on age alone!

    The other is a fun clever one I route through cloudflare to access all my home server stuff via HTTPS over TailScale. Never have to expose any ports to the big scary world wide web. :p