• kwomp2@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Makes me 'member these informative graphics on 4chan ~2008 that categorized users into oldfags, newfags and cancer. Anyone else 'member?

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      2 months ago

      I know about sync for Lemmy, just wondering if anyone figured out how to reuse the old app

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    2 months ago

    For a lot of the OGs on Reddit it got worse after the whole AMA Victoria thing. That was really when Reddit went downhill. Before that Reddit was amazing with AMAs that kept you refreshing constantly to be live in the chat, and posts that were funny and discussion that felt a bit more meaningful.

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      Relay for Reddit will always be my favorite. It had a nice tablet mode and the “swipe to do everything” interface was nice.

      I have yet to find a decent replacement for it. Voyager is alright but I swear that it was designed to maximize unintentional button presses. It’s so easy to accidentally go to the community or the user’s profile when I just wanted to click on the post. And I can’t even count the number of times I accidentally collapsed a comment when I was trying to edit or upvote it instead. This is why the swiping interface was so nice. Made it almost impossible to unintentionally do the wrong action.

      I miss Relay so much, but unfortunately the developer decided to play by Reddit’s rules and start charging people to use the app. So it’s never coming to Lemmy.

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        Have you tried Thunder? I’ve been using it since I finally got around to moving over here (admittedly not very long) and I’ve found that Thunder gets a lot right. It’s open source, ad-free, cross-platform, and nice to use. It doesn’t have quite as much polish as Relay but the design language is similar enough that it doesn’t feel like a huge departure.

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          I tried it a year ago; felt very much like an unfinished project. Too many missing features. Has it improved a lot since then?

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            I’ve only been on lemmy for like a week, so I have no point of comparison here. It doesn’t feel janky to me, but then I’m not a power user. It works well for what I like to do, which is view posts and comment. Images display well, I haven’t noticed any problems with video. I haven’t tried embedding images in comments yet, let’s try it with a photograph of the richest man in Indiana:

            the richest man in Indiana.

            Give Thunder a second shot, or don’t. I’m not your boss, I’m just some drunk guy on the Internet.

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      Reddit made it unusable on mobile again.

      I use Firefox + unlock, but naturally it’s just slower and less convenient than rif.

      I use reddit a lot less now. Practically don’t use it on mobile as I noticed.

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    I don’t really understand why reddit pretty much succeeded in killing off all other forums. People love the format of reddit so much that even after killing off all the supporting apps it hasn’t really done much at all to cause people to go back to traditional forums. I’ve personally always found reddit far worse than a traditional forum because of the like system. This place has it as well, although I’m not sure how it compares to reddit’s in terms of algorithm.

    Traditional forums did not have it. You just saw posts sequentially. There was also no character limit. This meant on traditional forums everyone’s position was not only presented equally but you could also go into as much detail as you wanted. If the topic is complex you could write basically an essay if you wanted, which in reddit you have to break up into multiple posts. Reddit’s like system also tends to facilitate echo chambers because popular opinions show up first while unpopular opinions show up last and can even be hidden, and it encourages people to misrepresent you and not act in good faith because they’re looking for an “own” to farm likes rather than a real discussion.

    Sure, there might be sometimes when a person’s opinion is so out there and disingenuous you don’t even want to take it seriously and have a real discussion, but I’ve never once in my entire history of using reddit had a decent conversation with someone. Even things as benign as like /r/nintendo, I say I enjoyed a game and I got a bunch of people shitting on me calling me a bad person for liking a particular game. No matter how benign and non-serious the topic is, people always find ways to turn it into an attack to “own” you to farm upvotes.

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      This meant on traditional forums everyone’s position was not only presented equally

      No, the earlier web forums based on phpbb or vbulletin or whatever prioritized the most recent posts. That means that plenty of good content was drowned out by fast moving threads, and threads were sorted by most recent activity, which would allow some threads to fall off quickly unless “bumped.”

      It was inherently limited in scale. The votes made such a difference for the forums that implemented it (slashdot, hacker news, eventually reddit) that it could make the more popular stuff more visible, rather than the most recent stuff more visible. And whatever the local site culture was could prioritize the characteristics that were popular in that particular place. That’s why tech support almost entirely switched to reddit or similar places, because the helpfulness of a comment was generally what drove its popularity.

      And the biggest problem with the older forums was that they didn’t allow for threading. Any particular comment can spawn its own discussion without taking the rest of the thread off on that tangent.

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      tbh forums are annoying af. Perhaps I’m too used to modern day intuitive UI but they all seem to assume you know your way around. Btw if you want that ‘community’ feeling join a discord server. They’re great! I’ve been particularly interested in a twitch streamer/YouTuber "dougdoug"s server for about a year but it gets a tad too fast sometimes haha

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    2 months ago

    What I used before leaving: copypasta

    (A bot allowed to replace all comments with an edit to avoid being farmed by reddit or sold to AI)

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    2 months ago

    So, did Reddit lose a considerable amount of user base since then or not?

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      Not really. They’re sort of succeeding. They just became profitable, I think, for the first period ever.

      Got more users on Lemmy though, including me, so that’s a win in my book.

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          It’s occasionally mentioned in movies, series and animation.

          Ngl, i was expecting many more people to leave Reddit. The outrage was almost palpable. Big subreddits going private and all.

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    Never used any of that clients always used offical New Reddit web client even on mobile. I moved to Lemmy because it’s FOSS. That’s all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      I got great news for you!

      Apollo exists for the fediverse!

      Just look up „voyager“ app for iOS!

      I currently just use the webapp (no difference to the app). To „install“ the webapp (iOS) just go to the website and create a shortcut on homescreen.

      I love it and probably wouldn’t use lemmy without it!

      Edit: I’m not affiliated

      Edit2: source code on GitHub

      Edit3: it should be available for Android too. Unintentionally made it seem like it’s iOS exclusive

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          Voyager because its a name of a thing and install because the Webapp is not really installed, it’s just a bookmark in safari that’s opened without the toolbars etc

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            2 months ago

            I meant the quotation mark characters themselves. Is it a regional thing that I’m not familiar with as a dumb American? It’s just that I usually see them written like “this” instead of „this“.

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              I never noticed… I use English and German keyboard, and my iOS devie does both of them like „this“. Maybe it’s a setting

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    I haven’t looked at the front page of Reddit since the exodus. I have used it to deshittify Google search results but that’s it. I imagine it’s absolute garbage by now.

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      I rarely touched that shithole called the front page. Mainly in Redditplanet for Windows Mobile, since you can’t login there.

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      Same. Unfortunately I still need to visit smaller subreddits to get answers on niche topics, but that’s my only use for it now. In and out; 10 minute adventure. Not spending all day on the front page like I used to. Any more time than that on the website, and I’ll just end up getting into an argument with some Gen Alpha idiot who feels the need to butt in and say something ignorant. 10-15 years ago you’d only see that kind of behavior during summer break. Now /r/SummerReddit is all of reddit.

      I hope that one day I can finally abandon that shithole for good.

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        Even the smaller subreddits on niche topics seem to be dying. I suppose the lost good will (and loss of third party mod tools, or course) caused many of the superusers to leave.

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        I went and looked last night out of curiosity, and found absolutely vile racism on r/Canada talking about immigration. It was just shy of "deport them all’ in the comments.

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          Was it racist or did you just not like their opinion

          Do you understand how housing shortage with price gouging, wage suppression and deteriorating social services will result in people not like immigrations?

          Sounds like the regime fucked up and people expressing their political opinion on the issue.

          But nahh… Just call people racist 🤡

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            They were racist and all around bigots in that sub reddit years before the housing issues, seems like you are defending shitty people.

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    For me it’s not the app ecosystem. Reddit used to feel like it was a platform run by its community now its very company run and controlled.

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    It really broke my heart. I loved Reddit, I was on it on RiF one my phone when I didn’t use my computer. It was great for finding all sorts of new stuff and it was genuinely fun. I’d had a few accounts for like a decade or something, but when they killed the alternate programs I just left and never looked back.

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      Yeah, i didn’t realize how much i relied in Reddit to keep me informed on sports. I barely know what’s going in with my favorite teams, let alone the leagues anymore. But i couldn’t use anything other than RiF to browse Reddit, so i was done as soon as they axed the third party apps.

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        This is me on many topics. I am so uninformed over the last year.

        I love Lemmy, but I’m in a smaller bubble than I was before too. There are a lot less political opinions on here. People are outright hostile to anything that doesn’t fit in a narrow window, and though I mostly agree with what passes through that window, my idea of the world is off because of it. (Example, my wife uses Facebook. We both voted for Harris, but she was certain Trump would win. She was seeing what everyone was saying and I wasn’t. Imagine my surprise when she lost the election so terribly. My little bubble had me convinced he didn’t stand a chance.)

        I try occasionally to open Reddit. I know that Lemmy hates stock traders, but Reddit is where you get the best info on that. I’m a stay at home dad who contributes entirely by trading so I need to look at what people are researching from time to time.

        I just can’t stand the Reddit app. I can’t stand clicking on ads without realizing it because of how they blend it in.

        I can’t stand the kind of greed that led to the decision that killed third party apps.

        I miss it, but not bad enough to have a subpar experience on there. That, and I believe in a federated social media future. Tech companies are garbage.

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          I’ve only recently made the switch to Lemmy, and for what it’s worth, I’ve been using Apollo for Reddit the entire time. It’s fairly easy to set up if you check out r/sideloaded or r/apolloapp over on Reddit. Might make your money-job a bit less frustrating to work on :)

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      I miss RIF, but it’s for the better. Lemmy moves too slow for me to doomscroll it forever, so I’ve started putting my phone down more.

      I’ve started reading books again, even in public, when I’m waiting for someone or something. My mind is slowing down and getting more peaceful.