• Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Is this what passes for bait these days? Shoo, go on, git. Back to your imageboard.

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    We need a Lemmy dictionary so someone can finally clarify what people mean when they say “liberal”

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            I think you should check your definitions because nothing in that comment is correct.

            Imperialism, capitalism and racism have no inherent overlapping whatsoever. Each can exist without the other two.

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              Capitalism needs always growing and expanding markets in order to keep giving the owners of capital with surplus value; therefore, it colonized inhabited lands to tap on new markets and uses the population of over exploited countries as slave labor for maximum profits. It uses race and racism as a convenient story to justify why the slaves are in the position of slaves and why the native people were genocided to take their land. This is why imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism and racism is a tool of capitalism. To learn more about this please read

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                2 months ago

                Youre saying red is the highest form of apple because you saw an apple become red when ripe. Those are mere historical anecdotes and have nothing to do with the general meaning of the words. I wont keep playing this game with you, keep trolling elsewhere please.

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                  You are literally just trying to be a contrarian here. The historical context of the meme is American history if you didn’t notice. Therefore, my definitions are correct in the economical and historical context. You are literally just trying to move the conversation away from the actual issue. I am not playing that game. You can go and troll elsewhere.

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    What exactly do you want me, the average white guy to do? Hang myself in the street because my ancestors were assholes? I acknowledge they were assholes and they built a system that fucks you over. I, a powerless cog in the machine, treat everyone with the same respect i expect for myself. I vote democrat because the alternative is worse for both of us, yet you still hate me. Okay.

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      > What exactly do you want me, the average white guy to do?

      To join socialist organizations that try to destroy capitalism and end white supremacy, and to learn critical race theory and stop this bullshit victim complex that you have whenever anyone calls out the privilege of your group and how your group just fucks everyone else.

      > I acknowledge they were assholes and they built a system that fucks you over.

      Not just that. They keep upgrading that system to makes it worse and worse for non-whites. white people benefit from white supremacy which they enforce with systematic racism, hold almost all of the wealth of the country, hold the vast majority of the positions of power, are the least likely to be incarcerated unjustly while are the most likely to incarcerate black and brown people unjustly and tend to vote right wing and right wing policies against marginalized groups. Also they own the most amount of stolen land from native people and refuse to give it back. They are the ones who vote against constructing affordable housing in their neighborhoods to keep marginalized groups away, while they keep enjoying the land that they stole. They refuse to give reparations to marginalized groups. They refuse to give the descendants of slaves the plantation land that they worked on. And they recently voted against ending prison slavery.

      Hang myself in the street because my ancestors were assholes?

      This is literally the most bullshit thing reactionary say to avoid any fucking accountability. You don’t hang yourself. You join Marxist organizations that work towards ending white supremacy, work towards giving the land back to native Americans and to give reparations to black people. But that is hard so you of course won’t do it. It is just so easy to whine that minorities just hate you and do nothing for them because that is the path of least resistance and you can keep benefiting of your white supremacy.

      Why don’t you say: I know that my ancestors were demons so I work on orgs to prevent immigrants from being deported, that prevent black people to be unjustly incarcerated, that work for indigenous rights and tries to get rid of white supremacy by destroying capitalism

      You won’t because it is so easy to throw a tantrum and complain from your position of privilege saying that you vote Democrat like if the democrats give a shit about anything while they make a genocide, and you call it a day.

      That is just typical white complacency and that just does nothing more than to suit your ego for you to have peace of mind while you keep your privilege that your ancestors gave you with war crimes and your group currently maintains with immense violence and oppression against marginalized groups.

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        So everyone that doesn’t put their life on hold and join you in protest is your enemy. Got it. Enjoy having very few allies. That’s not how you win people over or start any sort of movement. Sympathizers are valuable to your cause too. Maybe you’ll notice that eventually.

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          White people who don’t do shit are not allies. They literally just keep the status quo that benefits them.

          People like you just “support” from the sidelines to suit your ego. You are the friendly face of white supremacy. Your white complacency keeps white supremacy going strong.