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    I only care about aliens if they’re going to use their tech to fix our climate. Otherwise they can fuck off.

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        Screw that, if they have the tech to reach us I am with them. I for one welcome our new alien overlords. I can be the Dr. Breen to their Combine.

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        True. I wasn’t debating that, just saying if they’re going to sit back and watch us boil alive, they’re useless and not worth considering. We’ve got existential problems.

        e: I see what you’re saying – maybe if we learnt we’re not the centre of the universe we’d come together. I guess I’m a cynic and I don’t think that would happen. We’d more likely enter new holy wars, with the major religions disrupting society again. Meanwhile, we’d still boil alive.

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    Yeah, feeling the same way over the past few years with blurry footage and people saying “WHAT IS THAT?” about something very likely mundane like a balloon or IR flare of another craft.

    Also new relevant video, Those damn alien bastards are real (Gianni Matragrano as Duke Nukem)

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      If the alien stuff was real, I would immediately want to hear their opinion about how we should address our pollution problems. I want to believe.

      But sadly it’s not. It’s a distraction.

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    The only way we’re going to solve the climate crisis is through bloodshed (in Minecraft), I guarantee it. There’s too much money in it for anyone to willingly give up their golden goose. However, most people don’t want to kill each other and most people especially don’t want to be the first person to pull the trigger, because those people rarely live to see the fruits of their labor (in Minecraft). As such, might as well pretend there’s a potential alternative that doesn’t involve murdering people (in Minecraft).

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      They didn’t. They did confirm ufo sightings but there’s nothing said on aliens/extraterrestrial origin.

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        Grusch has sworn under oath that there are departments in the government that have actual alien crafts and bodies.

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            I welcome physical proof as well. But this isn’t Bigfoot or Loch Ness or anything like that. There’s a mountain of testimony spanning decades. Too much smoke for there to be no fire.

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              There is also decades of proof of crazies getting into higher official positions. I don’t get why it’s harder to believe that these testimonies come from further crazies than believing that there is a huge, international, decade long cover up of alien contact.

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                shrugs. Idk what else to tell you. I’ve been following this stuff for a long long long time and this is ‘the moment’. People can continue to bury their head in the sand and stick their fingers in their ears or whatever they want to do.

                This is real and it’s happening now and we get to watch it in real time.

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              I welcome physical proof as well. But this isn’t Bigfoot or Loch Ness or anything like that. There’s a mountain of testimony spanning decades. Too much smoke for there to be no fire.

              That’s not how it works. Evidence isn’t a “nice to have” on top of everything else, it’s the bare minimum. Everything else is hearsay.

              When something is real it doesn’t beg for your trust, it begs for your eyes.

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                Show me a body or show me a craft. And do it in a way that is undeniable. This should not be that hard if the evidence actually were there. It’s a pretty simple conundrum. The obfuscation necessary to present these things as real would not be present if they were actually real.

                As far as I am concerned the whole UFO phenomenon is a psy-op to keep bottom-scraping “researchers” busy, to promote the idea that the US in possision of superior alien technology (master race BS similar to late Nazi-era propaganda), and an attempt at getting other nations to waste money attempting to either “catch up” or attempt to spy on these assets. It also is a way for the military-industrial complex to go to Congree and beg for more money to combat these non-existant aliens and their phantom technology.

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                  They stated there’s no way for us to contrast ‘em. This was the guy on the right, the pilot. He said they’re too fast.

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          Every time I hear the phrase “under oath” I mentally replace it with “pinky promise” because it all has tbe exact same amount of weight. There’s no reason to assume someone is being truthful just because they promised you they aren’t lying.

          Then there is the technicality of “if they believe it is the truth then they aren’t lying” so as long as other have convinced them enough for them to believe it, then they haven’t broken their oath.

          This is just meaningless elementary school behavior from adults and anyone that can’t see that or thinks oaths and such symbolic social constructs are meaningful are not worth taking seriously.

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            Unlike pinky promising, there are serious criminal penalties for lying under oath. It’s perjury and counts as a felony and comes with up to 7 years in prison. Not to mention what it would do to your career, especially a career in the military/intelligence.

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              You can pinky swear to lie on a testimoy, but you can’t testify to lie on a pinky swear.

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              so as long as other have convinced them enough for them to believe it, then they haven’t broken their oath.

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                I agree. Grusch could have been misled and bought into lies/misinformation. But at the very least I think HE believes it or wouldn’t be putting his career in jeopardy by reporting to Inspector Generals and testifying to Congress.

                The above poster makes it sound like he is likely to be lying about it, which I think is a weak character attack and not arguing in good faith.

                Don’t forget, along with the oral and written testimony, Grusch supposedly provided enough evidence to the ICIG to warrant an “urgent and credible” threat.

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              For those serious criminal penalties to happen, you’d have to prove that the testimony was a deliberate lie. So, once again, we’re back to proof. Besides, the guy with the most interesting testimony only offered up hearsay - things he was told by others. He didn’t claim to personally have seen any wreckage, alien bodies, etc.

              Even reading about it felt like a waste of time. My sympathies to anyone who actually watched it live.

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                To me the most interesting one was the testimony, video and all the rest from the pilot of the tic tac incident.

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    Climate, real estate, price gouging, enshittification, health care, voter suppression… There’s an awful lot to distract us from.

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    The whole point of an UFO is that it is unidentified. I don’t get how people instantly think that the aircraft is alien…

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      The dude under oath talked about non-human remains. In this case I think that’s why. (Not that I think it’s true or anything, I’ll need more than hearsay in order to believe).

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      Bingo. The people are involved with this in Congress specifically have stated that they think the government is not in full control of US airspace. The investigation is to find out if that is true.

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      The congress person asking why the whistleblowers didnt use the term extraterrestrial was so cringe. This was after the part where they explained they keep an open mind for other theories like interdimensional phenomenon. Really shows how uneducated some people that hold higher degrees really are.

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      If I throw a paper airplane and you don’t know it’s a paper airplane

      By definition it is a ufo

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      Usually it’s just a spy plane. Sometimes from the same country. Or a weather balloon, falling satellite, or just instrument errors. It’s never been aliens. And if aliens can get all the way here, they aren’t doing some shifty shit like being detected by friggin RADAR! Can you imagine how embarrassing that’d be?

      “Hey Quizlock, we heard you did some recon of Earth and the humans caught you on their radio frequency detection and ranging devices! How’d you manage that? Blast visual data at them and not absorb anomalous spectra? What an amateur! Now get back to reconfiguring the new quasar drives!”

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      Because the dude said the ships were piloted by non-humans, and that the pentagon took the non-human biological remains to experiment on. Like he didn’t outright say the word “aliens” but he 100% meant aliens.

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        The thing I think a lot of people miss is that, if I’m not mistaken, due to his position he has to report on what he was told. It doesn’t matter if it sounds insane or he doesn’t have proof; his job is to tell Congress what he was told during his investigations. If he was told that it’s aliens, then that’s what he has to tell Congress.

        I want to believe it’s aliens. I think that’d be pretty cool. However, my speculation is that he was given false information by the military to try to make him sound nuts and get Congress off their backs. Either that or he wasn’t given the full picture. Just because something is non-human doesn’t mean it’s alien in origin. It could be unmanned drones that had mice, monkeys or dogs in them to test g-forces (not sure why you couldn’t use a dummy in this day and age, but that’s beside the point). It could be the result of some kind of experiment to use biological matter instead of silicon and wiring. It could be aliens. There still isn’t enough information for a definitive conclusion except that the US has had unidentified objects flying through controlled aerospace unimpeded.

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          There’s also the guy who was squad commander and his tic tac incident. 4 sets of eyes saw it. Two carriers, the Nimitz and another one tracked them with radar. There’s a recording. I dunno, the guy seemed alright to me, honest. The tech in 2004, no heat emission, no wings, is out of this world.

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      Bingo. The people who are involved with this in Congress specifically have stated that they think the government is not in full control of US airspace. The investigation is to find out if that is true.

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    If there is any aliens I believe they have a tribunal regarding the prime directive. “These idiots are killing themselves, should we interfere?”

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    USA makes this alien BS up to make the rest of the world feel that USA is the only worthwhile Supreme Reich™ on earth that aliens will give a fuck about, and rest of the world is filled with worthless untermenschen. People that give a shit about USA kiddies spotting aliens on their rooftops and these MKULTRA’d walking experiments claiming they have alien dead bodies in Area 51 are NPCs and this stuff is a fat load of bullshit meant to distract people from their societal and economical issues.

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      Or maybe they’re embezzling funds or burning government budget on random bullshit. Occam’s Razor makes these seem much more likely than some elaborate conspiracy lol.

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        NASA statement this week opened my mind up to non-human intelligence on Earth. I started looking into when dinosaurs were really taken seriously, and it wasn’t until 1800. Think about how many humans ignored that evidence. Maybe some intelligence evolved on Earth and had brains that found natural physics and chemistry more teachable than our learning in school classrooms, found ways to open dimensions and just left Earth for some place better, but still comes back to check us lower species, ha.

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    omd! this so sums up whats been in the back of my head. the old “you know theres a war on”, but more “you know the worlds on fire”

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    It’s pretty obvious that all the ayyylmao talk is a distraction from a multitude of issues going on rn.