• Five@slrpnk.netOP
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    5 months ago

    Here’s a quick summary of some of the more objectionable points you appear to be making in your comment. Let me know if I got any of this wrong.

    • Auzy is accusing me of lying and being a secret GOP supporter. This is not conspiracist thinking, because they’re only accusing one person of lying, and a conspiracy involves multiple people.

    • Auzy is wrong in accusing me of being deceptive, but I am instead an emotional person who can’t rationally comprehend the articles that I share, and am just not capable of preventing myself from being manipulated by deceptive journalists.

    • The article Since Feeding the Homeless Is Illegal, Activists Carry AR-15s to Give Out Food, Supplies is fundamentally an advertisement for guns, in part because it uses the term “AR-15s” in the title, which is a Colt product.

    • In order to make a post, one needs to personally endorse both the source and content, because by sharing the wrong articles that you found interesting that other people might like to discuss here on this forum, you may be promoting capitalism. Sharing unique reports from a small political fringe site like thefreethoughtproject.com that are unreported in other sources is a form of promoting capitalism, while in general sharing journalism from large news corporations like the New York Times, Washington Post, and Los Angeles Times does not promote capitalism.

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      5 months ago
      1. Correct. The belief that one person is lying is an inherently more reasonable position than believing that a group is conspiring against you. Individuals lie all the time and for all sorts of reasons.
      2. If I believed you incapable of critical thinking I wouldn’t be pushing you to exercise more of it. Everybody is emotional and everybody is vulnerable to emotional manipulation. That’s why journalists’ bosses push them to write sensationalism, that’s why the algorithms push sensationalism to the readers. Everybody involved is incentivized to be dishonest because dishonesty works.
      3. I didn’t say it was an advertisement, I said seeing it as an advertisement is not unfounded. You didn’t tell Auzy you disagreed with them when you brought it up in this thread, you said they were crazy for thinking it.
      4. This bullet point needs further breaking down:

      In order to make a post, one needs to personally endorse both the source and content,

      When one makes a post without any commentary that separates one’s perspective from that being shared, one already has endorsed both the source and the content.

      because by sharing the wrong articles that you found interesting that other people might like to discuss here on this forum, you may be promoting capitalism.

      It’s not that you’re promoting capitalism, it’s that you’re extending its reach. If you do not impose your own standards that are separate from those that brought the content to you then the only standards involved are what is profitable for somebody else.

      Sharing unique reports from a small political fringe site like thefreethoughtproject.com that are unreported in other sources is a form of promoting capitalism, while in general sharing journalism from large news corporations like the New York Times, Washington Post, and Los Angeles Times does not promote capitalism.

      I never named any sources, let alone comparing their relative validity. I’ve never heard of your small political fringe site until this thread and have no idea how legitimate or illegitimate it is. But what I’m asking you now is, how did you come to hear of it? My belief so far, as I’ve already stated, has been that you’re sharing things that you saw on social media and you’ve rather conspicuously not denied that. Why do you think you were shown a small political fringe site?

      Is it a good source? Is it a bad source? The decision to bring it to your feed was not made by an entity which distinguishes between those two concepts, it only knows your patterns of past behavior and looks to inspire reactions from you. What kinds of reactions? It doesn’t care about that, either. If you spread to others what it spreads to you uncritically, you are extending that fundamental disregard for meaning. But you have the disadvantage of being a human being. People will anthropomorphize the algorithm by projecting your face onto it, read intentions into your words.

      So try actually having some intentions for a change.

      • TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org
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        5 months ago

        Folks, I don’t think this is going anywhere productive and I think it would be a good idea for all parties involved to take a step away from the thread.