• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        5 months ago

        On what grounds? Hating Biden for being a liberal right winger propping up genocide does not make them a supporter of someone even more right wing.

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          5 months ago

          Only if they refuse to vote for him to keep the even more right wing one out of office.

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            5 months ago

            Biden isn’t catering to Leftist voters. That doesn’t mean pointing out Biden and the DNC as right wingers is support for Trump.

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              5 months ago

              I didn’t say it was. I said refusing to vote for him is, albeit passively. Hate Biden all you want, but keep the objectively far worse guy out of power at all costs.

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                5 months ago

                The original point was that pointing out that Biden is a right wing monster makes you a Trump Supporter, which is goofy.

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                  5 months ago

                  Yes, that is goofy. I don’t hate Biden as much as some, but I don’t particularly like him, either. Still voting for him or whoever else the Democrats dredge up to keep fascism at bay.

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                    5 months ago

                    Tut‐tut, I see that Clinton’s electoral failure in spite of winning the popular vote hasn’t moved somebody’s faith in the pseudodemocracy. Let’s briefly review the circumstances, shall we?

                    Starting with the national elections of 2000:

                    • Democrats have received more popular votes in 4 out of the past 5 presidential elections, yet only gained office 2 times. Despite winning the popular vote only once in the past 5 elections, a Republican has taken office 3 times.
                    • Democrats have received 24 million more votes for Senate than Republicans, yet have held a majority in the Senate in only 3 out of the last 9 sessions, while Republicans have had a majority in 4 out of the past 9 sessions.
                    • Democrats have received over 500,000 more votes for seats in the House of Representatives, yet have held a majority in that body for only 3 out of the past 9 sessions, while Republicans have held a majority in 6 of those sessions.

                    (Source and more evidence here.)

                    Trust me, an overglorified public opinion poll isn’t going to stop neofascism should the ruling class deem its institutionalization necessary. The Fascists ascended to power in the Kingdom of Italy and the Weimar Republic in spite of their want of votes.