If we suspect that someone can suffer, we don’t make them suffer. And it’s pretty easy when it comes to our diets, because all you have to do is be vegan. And that’s the best you can do for the animals, the plants, our health, and our planet
i disagree that changing your diet does any good for the planet or the animals or the plants. it may benefit your health, but i don’t believe that’s universal, either.
There are plenty of papers and meta papers that show that plant-based diets have a much, much lower impact on our environment than non-plant-based diets. And you have to remember that cows eat more plants than you do, therefore eating cows ends up using more plants, on top of the environmental impact of the animal itself.
There are also papers that already show that as far as personal lifestyle changes go, going vegan is the best thing you can do for the environment, for the average person.
There are plenty of papers and meta papers that show that plant-based diets have a much, much lower impact on our environment than non-plant-based diets.
they do not show that choosing to eat non-animal products has actualy improved the environment, and they can’t, since the environment continues to be degraded.
And you have to remember that cows eat more plants than you do, therefore eating cows ends up using more plants, on top of the environmental impact of the animal itself.
livestock are mostly fed plants or parts of plants that people can’t or won’t eat. this is in addition to grazing, which i am not convinced can’t be done responsibly, even if some farmers have not been grazing responsibly.
There are also papers that already show that as far as personal lifestyle changes go, going vegan is the best thing you can do for the environment, for the average person.
no paper i’ve seen establishes this. the closest i’ve seen this claim is joseph poore discussing his 2018 metastudy, but the study itself does not contain this language and no other methods of helping the environment were studied as a part of that paper.
i disagree that changing your diet does any good for the planet or the animals or the plants. it may benefit your health, but i don’t believe that’s universal, either.
There are plenty of papers and meta papers that show that plant-based diets have a much, much lower impact on our environment than non-plant-based diets. And you have to remember that cows eat more plants than you do, therefore eating cows ends up using more plants, on top of the environmental impact of the animal itself.
There are also papers that already show that as far as personal lifestyle changes go, going vegan is the best thing you can do for the environment, for the average person.
they do not show that choosing to eat non-animal products has actualy improved the environment, and they can’t, since the environment continues to be degraded.
Sounds like climate change denier argument.
I said that the environment is getting worse. what did I deny?
Your argument is as stupid as climate deniers saying that it’s just not man made.
You can prove plenty of things about what helps or degrades the environment even if climate change is still worsening.
being vegan hasn’t helped
livestock are mostly fed plants or parts of plants that people can’t or won’t eat. this is in addition to grazing, which i am not convinced can’t be done responsibly, even if some farmers have not been grazing responsibly.
no paper i’ve seen establishes this. the closest i’ve seen this claim is joseph poore discussing his 2018 metastudy, but the study itself does not contain this language and no other methods of helping the environment were studied as a part of that paper.