Come up with a reasonable replacement product, and do it through an ethical company, and people might switch. But you’re not gonna convince people to give up the convenience they’ve relied on for a decade without a really good reason, and “this company is evil” is way too esoteric for most people.
Facebook is the absolute worst of the worst though. They have proven time and time again that they will always be as anti-consumer as the law allows - and then some. It only takes a peek at their wikipedia page to see how true this is.
Companies have forced everyone else out of what was previously a functioning non-commercial space. We have more choices than “evil company” vs “nothing”
That’s all well and good to say to me, cuz i agree with you, but that line is useless to someone who is on a social media platform because others are, and it is easy, and what they know.
These extra choices, the free ones… They gonna work as well as what they’re using? No. We’re not talking about netsavvy folks here. Can you rephrase your previous comment into one that is convincing for someone like that?
Hell, related topic: even Lemmy.world, the largest instance i know of is affiliated with Meta in some way. Do you block Lemmy world? I don’t. I used to but was missing too much. So who would i be talking down to these folks?
Oh come on, that’s like “all politicians lie”. There is “I record every millisecond of your private life to sell to anybody with a fat enough wallet” evil and there is “I am raising prices this year because I can” evil. The two are not the same.
If it’s unclear, this is a hypothetical conversation between me and a Facebook user. Is there something you could say to an existing Facebook user to get them to change? Context is “convincing, effective arguments”.
Come up with a reasonable replacement product, and do it through an ethical company, and people might switch. But you’re not gonna convince people to give up the convenience they’ve relied on for a decade without a really good reason, and “this company is evil” is way too esoteric for most people.
Good point, and to push their argument further… what company isn’t? If they used that rebuttal i would have nothing to say.
Facebook is the absolute worst of the worst though. They have proven time and time again that they will always be as anti-consumer as the law allows - and then some. It only takes a peek at their wikipedia page to see how true this is.
Companies have forced everyone else out of what was previously a functioning non-commercial space. We have more choices than “evil company” vs “nothing”
That’s all well and good to say to me, cuz i agree with you, but that line is useless to someone who is on a social media platform because others are, and it is easy, and what they know.
These extra choices, the free ones… They gonna work as well as what they’re using? No. We’re not talking about netsavvy folks here. Can you rephrase your previous comment into one that is convincing for someone like that?
Hell, related topic: even Lemmy.world, the largest instance i know of is affiliated with Meta in some way. Do you block Lemmy world? I don’t. I used to but was missing too much. So who would i be talking down to these folks?
Oh come on, that’s like “all politicians lie”. There is “I record every millisecond of your private life to sell to anybody with a fat enough wallet” evil and there is “I am raising prices this year because I can” evil. The two are not the same.
If it’s unclear, this is a hypothetical conversation between me and a Facebook user. Is there something you could say to an existing Facebook user to get them to change? Context is “convincing, effective arguments”.