• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    It depends. Defederation for good reasons is good, defederation for bad or false reasons is generally bad.

    As an example, having a strict and democratic defederation/federation policy has contributed to Hexbear having the most active trans community on Lemmy, and it’s a good thing that there’s an actively protected trans space free from bigotry.

    At the same time, defederating from instances for political reasons under the guise of other reasons is generally a bad thing.

    It’s largely context dependent.

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      4 months ago

      I mean, “bad” in this case is completely subjective. There are large trans communities on other instances (blahaj being the most obvious one) and they have their reasons for defederating from Hexbear.

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        Hexbear defederated from blahaj, not the other way around. Either way, Hexbear remains the most active trans community on Lemmy.

        I understand why anticommunist instances like Lemmy.world defederate from Hexbear, I just don’t think it will help Lemmy.world in the long run, as Lemmy itself by nature is going to attract Communists due to its structure.

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          Honestly .world should have just blocked the most common shiposting Hexbear comms like chapotraphouse and dunk_tank as these are what most users found annoying. And I believe ther are more leftists on .world than one might think. There’s a great games comm on Hexbear too, and downvote away on the leftist game posts - Hexbear doesn’t have downvotes anyway!

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            The problem is that Lemmy.world doesn’t want Communists using their communities, not that their users shouldn’t be exposed to Communist posts, because they wanted homogenous liberalism.

            There are some leftists on .world, but they usually leave in favor of leftist instances from what I have personally seen.

            Absolutely agree about Hexbear’s games comm, easily the best gaming comm on Lemmy.

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              There are some leftists on .world, but they usually leave in favor of leftist instances from what I have personally seen.

              Fair, that’s what I did.

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          I dunno, I feel like anyone drawn to Lemmy for that reason will find lemmy.ml nearly as easily. If world suffers because of bad practices, well, that’s the way it goes. At least the fediverse lives on.

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            They will, yes, but not always. Apps like Voyager assume .world as the default, causing friction when leftists join and run into silencing of their views.

            Lemmy.ml is interesting, it’s a reference to Marxism-Leninism, but it doesn’t require users to be Communists like Lemmygrad, or leftists in general like Hexbear, hence the active population on Hexbear.

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        Ada is okay with others chasing off people from the instance. Hard to say it’s a pro trans one after seeing multiple witch hunts done against a particular comm by one user and Ada just supporting the witch hunt