So for those of you humoring bots: https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/08/1139962
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/3/afghan-women-protest-against-recent-attack-on-kabul-school
acts of violence from a illegitimate government is terrorism folks. I don’t care about America or Isis. A bad guy fighting a bad guy does not male one bad guy good.
they already do a fantastic job of “terrorising” their own local populace, burning food aid, banning forms of art (paintings, photography, music and what not), banning girls from most social and work life, getting money from drugs, kidnapping and extortion.
We can discuss the formal definition of terrorism for pages but I am pretty convinced the meme has a valid point. Sure it is also a government now, so superficially it might make sense to partner with a government to fight local terrorism but when the government is the main source of domestic terrorism, then yea this meme is still funny.
And if they hadn’t secured some deal with the USA and were not in power right now, I doubt they would forever shy away from suicide bombing the fuck out of that place.
Finally anyone who has a grain’s worth of intuition about the world’s politics would know that what Russia calls “a partnership against terrorism” is a cover up for continuing to meddle in affairs of middle eastern countries like many other major players (USA or NATO would call it bringing down dictators for instance). Though this is admittedly separate from what is being discussed here, I was compelled to make this point too.
See that’s just it. You’re operating off you’re preconceived notions instead of the facts on the ground. The fact is the ISKP is operating in northern Afghanistan and is a threat to literally everyone in the region. When you put that into perspective, the meme is not funny and is massively ignorant. Despite all the injustices the Taliban commits, the Islamic State is far far worse. They’re the ones actively suicide bombing Hazari women and the only ones who can stop them are, regrettably the Taliban. Thats a grim and morbid reality, because the Taliban is racist as hell against Hazari’s but they aren’t genocidal like the Islamic State. We’d both like to seem some progressive secular democracy in the region but we spent two decades pissing any chances of that away.
Oh no doubt that ISIS will be an even more horrible hell for the region than even the Taliban. But also what Taliban commits there is beyond the word injustice it is violation of every known human rights and is a cultural genocide. Their incompetence will probably end up killing millions in the region.
I understand that the meme might be operating from a much more simplistic view of ISIS = terrorist = Taliban but nevertheless it is the involvement of the major world powers in the affairs of these regions which enable these groups. Lets not forget that ISIS’ emergence was sped and perhaps even mostly born out by the USA’s involvement in the region and USA’s justification was also fighting terrorism. In the end Russia fighting terrorism in the region might even be the funnier point in this meme.
It is funny that involvement in Afghanistan has been passed back and forth between the US an Russia for half a century. Before that it was the UK and Russia. But thats not what the meme is about. The meme revels in its own ignorance of the situation.
Yes, ISKP is a direct consequence of US meddling in the region. Many of it’s members were our collaborators. But I think you’re being unfair here if you’re going to equate Russia trying to stabilize the Taliban’s rule with America’s failure to replace it. Its possible that Russia’s involvement can escalate like it did in the 80s but I doubt that’ll happen. That would be like the America deciding to send troops to Vietnam again.