• AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today
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    3 months ago

    Yep, you’re right that she wouldn’t win and you would be propping up Trump by voting for her. I don’t see any “liberals” saying she’ll stop the genocide, either. I only see you bringing up that point in this thread.

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      3 months ago

      Read the thread, there are plenty of people on this thread pretending Harris will be better for Palestine, which is a lie.

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        3 months ago

        That’s not what you said. You originally said “cease the genocide”, which neither candidate will do and no one here is saying otherwise.

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            3 months ago

            He will make it worse, because he is a fascist. It’s not magic, basic knowledge of how congress and fascism work. Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t make it “magic”.

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              So if a fascist takes office, bipartisan agreemants based on preset budgets magically shift, and cause the shipments to increase in magnitude? Sounds like magic to me.

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                Those budgets get changed constantly, and if you think Trump and the GOP won’t change them you’re a bigger idiot than I initially realized.

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                  The GOP is aligned with the DNC in this matter, the DNC is not blocking anything nor is the GOP pushing for more. Both are in agreement. If the GOP gets more congress seats, the anti-genocide section of the DNC still can’t change anything.

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        There are two people, by definition one is better. So you saying her being better is a lie must mean you think Trump is better. Which is insane.

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          This is a new level of liberal gymnastics, lmao.

          Materially, if Trump and Kamala approve the same genocidal weapon shipments, regardless of their individual feelings, what changes? Do you think Trump has fascist magic that makes the bombs Kamala promised to send anyways more deadly?

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            No, but if you look beyond a single isolated thing you’re crusading for your realize that sending weapons over seas isn’t the only power the president has. The president can make the world much worse beyond a single conflict in the middle east.

            You can’t see being that single issue. Other people are looking at long reaching impact. If my your admission they both want to send bombs, then look at what else they are doing. Try to effect some level of change and take action instead of just judging and bitching.

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              A bit nasty to describe genocide as “a single conflict in the middle east,” but regardless, the GOP and DNC are aligned on foreign policy.

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                Nasty? Is it multiple conflicts, is it not in the middle east? Or are you just mad and want to use inflammatory words to drive a discussion off feelings not reality.

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                  The reality is that it’s genocide, using passive language is a rhetorical strategy to downplay the internationally recognized genocide.

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                    I’m not down playing anything, it’s you assuming and wanting to be extreme. Why don’t you call it the murder of innocent children, are you trying to play it down by using a single word?

                    Jesus, it’s not even about the issues with people like you, it’s just an excuse to feel righteous and go after people.

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      Yep, you’re right that she wouldn’t win and you would be propping up Trump

      Actually I’d be propping up Kamala by not voting for Trump.