I don’t want to sound bloodthirsty, but I was always really confused why this wasn’t happening regularly, at least in the States. Those people, the CEOs, are the faces of corporations that fucked many people over. With the amount of the violent gun crimes in USA you would think those CEOs would be targets of disgruntled gun owners all the time instead of next to never.
At the risk of sounding a bit more bloodthirsty, since the current capital class is basicially free of consequences for their opression of the working class due to incredibly corrupt justice system, those things should be a natural outcome of the working class frustration. Especially accounting for absurd access to deadly and easy to use guns. Nature is healing.
I would reckon that it’s because these people are incredibly well-protected. Once you reach an executive office at the large companies I’ve worked for, you have to live in a giant compound because of the size of the detail of elite security forces that must accompany you at all times. I’m talking 40+ people paid by the company, ex-special forces. These details do entire building security sweeps ahead of the CEO, checking for bombs, bugs and other threats. The board mandates that you have this protection.
Thank you for sharing. The boards for the companies I’ve worked for mandated security detail for C levels. I’m gonna go ahead and posit that this board will now mandate as well.
Agree in the respect of home security and any kind of corporate mandated security. If you are rich and/or live in a rich neighbourhood, you’ll need all the protection you can get to deter burglars. Also, corporations in particularly egregious industries like health insurance probably deal with threats on a regular basis.
Disagree because I think a big part of why corporate execs aren’t usually targeted is that they keep a relatively low profile outside of their jobs and aren’t typically public facing unlike more household names like Taylor Swift, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio, Nicolas Cage, Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Joe Biden, etc. There are probably a lot of senior managers, big corporate execs and millionaires hiding in plain sight.
I’m sure a lot of people from Florida know who their governor is (Ron DeSantis) but not who the CEO of Carnival Corp & plc is (Micky Arison.) Only people who are really invested in that industry in some way would know, which is why figures like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are rare exceptions.
Even the level of security that current and former Presidents of the United States get are not infallible. Donald Trump was almost assassinated twice in this year’s campaign alone.
I think you are making good points here. I don’t think most corporate execs have that kind of detail, I agree that it’s likely more public-facing or in industries like healthcare, insurance, banking, real estate, law - any industry that can directly ruin people’s lives. To that point, if this company never had security details for their CEO, I am also surprised this hasn’t happened sooner.
We, Americans, are INCREDIBLY conditioned to respect authority. On TV the bad guy always gets caught, prosperity and authority is deserved and comes straight from God, there are all powerful forces (God or the market) working benevolently in everone’s favor and certain people, typically white males, are born to lead.
Reality is quiet different, but we respect the system and have a lot of faith that if we live right things will work out. Honestly, we’re a polite and kind people, meanwhile, we’ve created a corporate culture that favors narcissm and psychopaths.
Our cultural imperialism was perfected here at home.
The thing is, that culture has been breaking. More and more people have internalized the idea that there is a seperate legal system for the rich and powerful. Politeness is being eroded in favor of toxicity. People are losing trust in political institutions.
The U.S. is a powder keg of poor, desperate people waiting for a match.
Quick google revealed that on average apparently 327 people are shot in USA every day, and 1 in 5 people have a family member that has been fatally shot. In comparison, in my country 267 people have been murdered by any means in entire the 2022. Population difference is a bit over 9x, so sure, that makes it a bit less grim, but USA still does more gun violence alone in a single week per capita, than my country does any kind of violence (and trust me we Poles are inventive kind) in entire year.
I think the “problem” isn’t related to there being too few people trigger happy enough in USA, but I’m myself not too sure what it is that makes median voter more prone to shooting innocent strangers instead of depraved bilionaires. While I might sound sarcastic, I’m really not, I’m honestly bewildered by this and has been for years now.
I don’t want to sound bloodthirsty, but I was always really confused why this wasn’t happening regularly, at least in the States. Those people, the CEOs, are the faces of corporations that fucked many people over. With the amount of the violent gun crimes in USA you would think those CEOs would be targets of disgruntled gun owners all the time instead of next to never.
I’ve long wondered the same. This thought comes up every time I hear news of a mass shooting.
I don’t want to sound bloodthirsty, but I was always really confused why this wasn’t happening regularly, at least in the States. Those people, the CEOs, are the faces of corporations that fucked many people over. With the amount of the violent gun crimes in USA you would think those CEOs would be targets of disgruntled gun owners all the time instead of next to never.
At the risk of sounding a bit more bloodthirsty, since the current capital class is basicially free of consequences for their opression of the working class due to incredibly corrupt justice system, those things should be a natural outcome of the working class frustration. Especially accounting for absurd access to deadly and easy to use guns. Nature is healing.
I would reckon that it’s because these people are incredibly well-protected. Once you reach an executive office at the large companies I’ve worked for, you have to live in a giant compound because of the size of the detail of elite security forces that must accompany you at all times. I’m talking 40+ people paid by the company, ex-special forces. These details do entire building security sweeps ahead of the CEO, checking for bombs, bugs and other threats. The board mandates that you have this protection.
Thank you for sharing. The boards for the companies I’ve worked for mandated security detail for C levels. I’m gonna go ahead and posit that this board will now mandate as well.
I’m inclined to agree and disagree.
Agree in the respect of home security and any kind of corporate mandated security. If you are rich and/or live in a rich neighbourhood, you’ll need all the protection you can get to deter burglars. Also, corporations in particularly egregious industries like health insurance probably deal with threats on a regular basis.
Disagree because I think a big part of why corporate execs aren’t usually targeted is that they keep a relatively low profile outside of their jobs and aren’t typically public facing unlike more household names like Taylor Swift, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio, Nicolas Cage, Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Joe Biden, etc. There are probably a lot of senior managers, big corporate execs and millionaires hiding in plain sight.
I’m sure a lot of people from Florida know who their governor is (Ron DeSantis) but not who the CEO of Carnival Corp & plc is (Micky Arison.) Only people who are really invested in that industry in some way would know, which is why figures like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are rare exceptions.
Even the level of security that current and former Presidents of the United States get are not infallible. Donald Trump was almost assassinated twice in this year’s campaign alone.
I think you are making good points here. I don’t think most corporate execs have that kind of detail, I agree that it’s likely more public-facing or in industries like healthcare, insurance, banking, real estate, law - any industry that can directly ruin people’s lives. To that point, if this company never had security details for their CEO, I am also surprised this hasn’t happened sooner.
Look at the Civil Rights and Labor movements – American’s in the past have waged war on their oppressors.
Weirdly enough those parts of history get glossed over in school.
We, Americans, are INCREDIBLY conditioned to respect authority. On TV the bad guy always gets caught, prosperity and authority is deserved and comes straight from God, there are all powerful forces (God or the market) working benevolently in everone’s favor and certain people, typically white males, are born to lead.
Reality is quiet different, but we respect the system and have a lot of faith that if we live right things will work out. Honestly, we’re a polite and kind people, meanwhile, we’ve created a corporate culture that favors narcissm and psychopaths.
Our cultural imperialism was perfected here at home.
The thing is, that culture has been breaking. More and more people have internalized the idea that there is a seperate legal system for the rich and powerful. Politeness is being eroded in favor of toxicity. People are losing trust in political institutions.
The U.S. is a powder keg of poor, desperate people waiting for a match.
I’m rubbing my flint and steel together as much as I can
People don’t like hurting other people, even if it is justified.
Exceptions to this are relatively rare.
Quick google revealed that on average apparently 327 people are shot in USA every day, and 1 in 5 people have a family member that has been fatally shot. In comparison, in my country 267 people have been murdered by any means in entire the 2022. Population difference is a bit over 9x, so sure, that makes it a bit less grim, but USA still does more gun violence alone in a single week per capita, than my country does any kind of violence (and trust me we Poles are inventive kind) in entire year.
I think the “problem” isn’t related to there being too few people trigger happy enough in USA, but I’m myself not too sure what it is that makes median voter more prone to shooting innocent strangers instead of depraved bilionaires. While I might sound sarcastic, I’m really not, I’m honestly bewildered by this and has been for years now.
I’ve long wondered the same. This thought comes up every time I hear news of a mass shooting.