• FutileRecipe@lemmy.world
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      I said “average PC,” and you throw out Linux with a hardened browser. That’s not average. But how many people have Linux with a hardened browser? More importantly, how easy is that to set up compared to setting up GOS (I promise GOS is much, much easier to set up and use)?

      But if we’re going with extremes like this: no one should use banks on Linux with hardened browsers. Just go in person.

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        1 year ago

        installing a just-works distro (say linux mint) is just/almost as easy as grapheneos. assuming not doing dual booting (the phone is dual booting is it).

        librewolf (hardened fork of firefox) is like 2 commands on linux, or an installer wizard on windows.

        unironically the last statement is based. less technology is always more secure. we managed without it back in the day didnt we.

        im not going to say privacy and digital security is easy or one-size-fits-all or anything, we each have to make comprimises on convenience.

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          It’s harder for the average person. You have to know how to change device boot order in BIOS/UEFI, average person barely knows what an operating system is, let alone how to find their PC UEFI/BIOS setting menu to configure boot order. Grapheneos explains it clearly, how to install. You simply tap a few buttons on the browser and on the phone, when prompted.

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            1 year ago

            its like 10 key presses total. there are many tutorials (although none as good and official as grapheneos i assume). people can learn things, and digital literacy is very important

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              I agree 100% it’s upsetting how little people know about technology they use everyday. To many and you, installing a new OS is easy as breathing air, to the average person, it’s like learning to ride a bike for the first time. We have to slowly teach those, willing to listen and learn.

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                1 year ago

                exactly. the only long term true solution to digital security is tech literacy. its not actually that hard to learn from nothing, some people just are lazy, or think its just for hackers (propaganda)

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                  1 year ago

                  It’s overwhelming to a lot, if we want to teach, we shouldn’t call them “lazy”, they simply don’t see the value in understanding or learning tech.

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        11 months ago

        what r u smoking ? linux is the only widely used open source desktop operating system. it has heaps less viruses made for it. its unix-like permission system (like mac) is always better than uac of windows. you can say a lot of bad things about linux, sure, but security is most certainly not one of them. unless you compare it to a locked-down os like android, it is the most secure.

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          11 months ago

          source model is not indicative of security. besides that, though, Linux is much easier to gain privilege escalation and perform a data exfiltration.

          in order of least to most secure is; ChromeOS, MacOS, Windows, Linux. (BSD derivatives arguably below Linux but that is a more complicated topic that I’m not educated enough on).