God damn I thought I saw the last of these stupid browser takes on reddit, chromium is open source and we’ve seen multiple browsers (Brave, Vivaldi, I think librewolf) using its potential to remove themselves from the chromium baseline and build out their own fork with ad blocking services that didn’t go down when manifest V3 happened.
There’s no “browser monopoly” anymore than there’s a “V shaped engine” monopoly in cars. Why don’t people use Gecko more? That’s like asking why people don’t use rotary piston engines in cars, you could, it’s just garbage. Gecko isn’t the standard because no one wants to build a web browser with it.
Librewolf is hardened Firefox not Chromium. If you really care about privacy there’s no option but to go Firefox/Librewolf.
I use Librewolf on PC and Fennec on my Androids. Both fron Gecko engine. Ungoogled Chromium still depends on google web services not to mention just shitty to use. Chromium is (de facto) standard not because it’s inarguably good. It’s because Chrome has been defacto standard web browser since 2010 because IE was an utter trash and Chrome suddenly appeared and won over it.
Firefox couldn’t win that war because it wasn’t a new kid and all people could remember was it not working properly with websites that are designed for IE, even after websites moved to web standards, which was the reason Chrome was working properly.
I don’t care if Chromium is slightly faster or it supports newer web standards hairthin ahead. I hate Chrome and Chromium and love Firefox.
Come back to me when Firefox has workspaces, tab stacking, a side panel, and the rest of the aesthetic customization of Vivaldi.
You’re a fanboy, clearly, but you haven’t actually argued why Firefox is better, just that you like it more because you’re seething at chromium.
Firefox lost because it used to be shitty and everyone just assumed it still is, whoops. Better luck next time. When Vivaldi stops blocking ads natively without an installed ad blocker (still haven’t noticed any YouTube ads post V3) I’ll consider switching. Until then, this “bUt cHrOmiUm” shit is just a joke.
I can use just the same logic with Firefox too. Workspace is in firefox as Container. Actually it’s been forever. Self hostable sync? The idea of logging in to an account to a company in a browser nonetheless is horrifying. Vivaldi talks about how great their privacy feature is but their default Adblock on Vivaldi is no match to ubo so no real benefit when I’m just going to have to install ubo atop. Oh and default enabled Google services? No thanks.
Bringing Vivaldi or basically any other browser is kinda missing the point. Someone can make the very same features happen with Gecko. I’m mostly concerned with privacy which I think I made clear which is the reason I don’t get why you try to point out the clear fact that I’m a fanboy. I am. To be clear, I hate Google. I use Duckduckgo to search, Nextcloud for drive, Piped for youtube frontend and so on. I try to avoid Google and other unnessesary privacy concerning things as much as I can.
None of that is chromium. Vivaldi could have built that on top of Firefox, but didn’t. As to why Firefox is better, the very fact that it’s an alternative that is keeping up technically is a benefit. It’s less a ‘V-shaped engine’ monopoly and moreso a ‘V8 engine made by a specific company’ monopoly. They have far too much control over the direction of web standards. Much of what they are doing is actually good, but it should then be spread based on merit, rather than because they directly control almost the entire market.
God damn I thought I saw the last of these stupid browser takes on reddit, chromium is open source and we’ve seen multiple browsers (Brave, Vivaldi, I think librewolf) using its potential to remove themselves from the chromium baseline and build out their own fork with ad blocking services that didn’t go down when manifest V3 happened.
There’s no “browser monopoly” anymore than there’s a “V shaped engine” monopoly in cars. Why don’t people use Gecko more? That’s like asking why people don’t use rotary piston engines in cars, you could, it’s just garbage. Gecko isn’t the standard because no one wants to build a web browser with it.
Librewolf is hardened Firefox not Chromium. If you really care about privacy there’s no option but to go Firefox/Librewolf.
I use Librewolf on PC and Fennec on my Androids. Both fron Gecko engine. Ungoogled Chromium still depends on google web services not to mention just shitty to use. Chromium is (de facto) standard not because it’s inarguably good. It’s because Chrome has been defacto standard web browser since 2010 because IE was an utter trash and Chrome suddenly appeared and won over it.
Firefox couldn’t win that war because it wasn’t a new kid and all people could remember was it not working properly with websites that are designed for IE, even after websites moved to web standards, which was the reason Chrome was working properly.
I don’t care if Chromium is slightly faster or it supports newer web standards hairthin ahead. I hate Chrome and Chromium and love Firefox.
Come back to me when Firefox has workspaces, tab stacking, a side panel, and the rest of the aesthetic customization of Vivaldi.
You’re a fanboy, clearly, but you haven’t actually argued why Firefox is better, just that you like it more because you’re seething at chromium.
Firefox lost because it used to be shitty and everyone just assumed it still is, whoops. Better luck next time. When Vivaldi stops blocking ads natively without an installed ad blocker (still haven’t noticed any YouTube ads post V3) I’ll consider switching. Until then, this “bUt cHrOmiUm” shit is just a joke.
I can use just the same logic with Firefox too. Workspace is in firefox as Container. Actually it’s been forever. Self hostable sync? The idea of logging in to an account to a company in a browser nonetheless is horrifying. Vivaldi talks about how great their privacy feature is but their default Adblock on Vivaldi is no match to ubo so no real benefit when I’m just going to have to install ubo atop. Oh and default enabled Google services? No thanks.
Bringing Vivaldi or basically any other browser is kinda missing the point. Someone can make the very same features happen with Gecko. I’m mostly concerned with privacy which I think I made clear which is the reason I don’t get why you try to point out the clear fact that I’m a fanboy. I am. To be clear, I hate Google. I use Duckduckgo to search, Nextcloud for drive, Piped for youtube frontend and so on. I try to avoid Google and other unnessesary privacy concerning things as much as I can.
None of that is chromium. Vivaldi could have built that on top of Firefox, but didn’t. As to why Firefox is better, the very fact that it’s an alternative that is keeping up technically is a benefit. It’s less a ‘V-shaped engine’ monopoly and moreso a ‘V8 engine made by a specific company’ monopoly. They have far too much control over the direction of web standards. Much of what they are doing is actually good, but it should then be spread based on merit, rather than because they directly control almost the entire market.