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    Those creepy DM’s are very, very real unfortunately and weren’t part of the case you’re referring to.

    I was very much in the “wait and see“ camp, but when the charges were dropped and he immediately went on that rant outside the courthouse about cancel culture and all this other coded right wing stuff…yeah I’m done with him lol. Between the creepy messages and who he has shown himself to be (some of his colleagues opened up about his behavior when the charges emerged) I just don’t like who he is as a person and don’t want to support him. AS made the right call canning him.

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          So guilty until proven innocent? I shouldn’t have to tell you how backwards and nonsensical that is. What evidence that they are fake are you looking for exactly? How is that supposed to be proven? The point is that it can’t be proven either way. So maybe don’t make any career-ending assumptions based off of only that.

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            Am I not “guilty” of sending you the above comment? Do not sit here and try to prescribe legalese to a situation where I am saying “there are messages and they appear to be real.” I have made no mention of a crime. I said he was being creepy. You are conflating the two and ignoring all the substance of what I said.

            I am not against roiland because of a crime, I am against him because he’s a creepy person. I don’t know about you, but I have no desire to sit down and have a beer with him.

            Your original argument is that the messages could be fake. Give evidence or stop dancing around and move on.

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              Its just a phrase, I never implied this has anything to do with law. “Guilty” and “innocent” are not purely legal terms. You said you can assume they are real. If you are going to assume anything, you should have evidence. I’m not assuming anything, I don’t need evidence. You are assuming they are real, you need evidence. There is no evidence either way, as I have already said, and you ignored. So your assumption is baseless. I can’t break it down any further for you. My original argument was that the messages could be fake, yes. But that doesn’t mean I have to provide evidence. If there was evidence I wouldn’t say “could”. I was literally saying I don’t know, and it is impossible to know. But its stupid to assume its real when you can’t possibly know, just based off of your views of him in general.

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                Its just a phrase, I never implied this has anything to do with law. “Guilty” and “innocent” are not purely legal terms.

                Oh come now. That doesn’t even make sense if I believed it, which I don’t. “Innocent until proven guilty“ is exclusive to the court of law. I don’t need to have an investigation and mount evidence to say somebody is a piece of garbage. I can use whatever I deem appropriate and you are welcome to disagree. But that is not what you did. You attempted to hide behind phony legalese and make me look like I am on some sort of witchhunt/don’t care about rights.

                My original argument was that the messages could be fake, yes. But that doesn’t mean I have to provide evidence. If there was evidence I wouldn’t say “could”. I was literally saying I don’t know, and it is impossible to know.

                Nonsense. You tried to cast doubt on the authenticity. Nothing you have written indicates you were just trying to be reasonable or whatever you are making yourself out to be.

                Stop talking out both sides of your mouth. We all know what you said and meant.

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                  You know morals were a thing before law right? Innocent before proven guilty is a phrase used in law, but that doesn’t mean its only applicable in law. You aren’t making an argument you’re just complaining because you associate the phrase with law. Maybe you don’t need evidence to claim he’s guilty, but you do if you don’t want to seem like a fucking idiot to anyone with half a brain. What I wrote says it could be fake. I didn’t say it was, I said it could be. “Stop talking out both sides of your mouth” what does that even mean? Ive been saying exactly the same thing the whole time. If you still don’t get it then you need to work on your reading comprehension. I’ve done everything I can to simplify it short of drawing a fucking diagram. I’m done. Good luck figuring it out.

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                    You know morals were a thing before law right?

                    Stopped reading. This has become far too esoteric even for me. Have a good one man, we are clearly well past the point of productivity.

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            Public opinion is not a court of law. Do you just aimlessly quote slogans you heard to justify whatever dumb shit pops into your brain?

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              I honestly can not believe people are disagreeing with me. Yeah he’s a creep but that doesn’t justify making such a life changing assumption based off of that. Slogans have meaning you know. You should read it and figure out what it means. This may not be a court of law but that doesn’t justify this whatsoever. Instead of making fun of a phrase I said, you should argue about the actual fucking topic.

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          Motherfucker, you’re the one who said “very, very real”. I asked you for your proof they are “very, very real”. If they are “very, very real” as YOU stated, then I want the proof that you have that they are “very, very real”.

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            They exist. That’s how they’re real. Do a cursory google search they’ve been plastered everywhere.

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      Hopefully they can find someone who can keep the spirit of the show alive, then. I’d hate to see it go. It was such a unique show.

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      Oh I agree whole heartedly. But he isn’t going to prison over it is what I’m saying.

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          He was just talking about how the texts were real And how he didn’t like Justin Roiland over that anymore or whatever. Yep, creepy texts, shitty dude. I guess he was bad like that just in general to other staff.

          But this meme is about him in prison and he ain’t going there anymore is my point.