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    He’s not, though. He’s had plenty of successful companies that have done some pretty amazing things, and he’s become a multi-hundred-billionaire starting from a relatively extremely small amount of seed funding.

    I suspect that his successes in other fields may have led him to think he would be just as good at running a social media company, which isn’t going so well for him.

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              i mean, that’s still way more wealthy than most people. i don’t think i know anybody who had 28,000 buckaroos of money to burn on their child’s business venture. and the article that you linked does say that musk’s dad made around 400,000 dollars off the emerald mine, which is… still more wealth than most people will see in their lifetime. according to Errol, he sent money he made off the emerald mine and by selling his yacht to Elon and Kimbal to pay for living expenses while they were studying in the US.

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                Most people don’t get seed money from their parents, but the median American will inherit $70K from their parents.

                Regardless, most people who start a business can take out a loan. And to put things in perspective, even opening a fast food restaurant will require over $200K.

                In other words, the advantage that $28K gave Musk was nowhere near enough to open a small restaurant, much less automatically turn him into a billionaire.

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                  i really want to know where you got that figure, because a quick google search does not verify a median inheritance of 70k. there are some figures which report a mean inheritance of around that, but most are significantly lower, and this document suggests both that the median inheritance is around 8k across income groups, and that less that 7% of people are will receive any inheritance at all when averaged across all income groups. (the wealthier you are, the more likely you are to receive an inheritance).

                  and sure, most people who start a business can take out a loan, but there are a vast quantity of people who can’t take out a loan, because they have bad credit, or do not want to take out a loan they know they will never be able to repay if they fail to get their business off the ground. rich people can afford to take more risks, can afford to not spend excess money that they have on making sure they get to eat next month, and thus are conferred specific structural advantages when starting, maintaining, and growing businesses.

                  i’m not saying that 28k can automatically turn him into a billionaire. i’m simply pointing out the truth, that Elon Musk did, in fact, benefit from structural advantages which cleared barriers to entry that the vast majority of people do not have the resources to bypass.

                  i get that people would really like it if he was some rags to riches story about a poor kid ascending up the ladder, but no. it isn’t true about musk, and it isn’t true about most billionaires. their wealth is unprecedented, sure, and they have leveraged their resources beyond what most people can conceive, but it bears repeating. statistically, most of the monstrously wealthy started out wealthy, had access to resources that the average person will never have from the start, and were only in a position to grow their wealth because they had money to burn on things other than food, shelter, and physical health.

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                It’s not easy to become a billionaire from 28,000 USD. Definitely not based on luck alone if you grow several businesses.

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                  its not easy to become a billionaire. but i think that its disingenuous to suggest that 28,000 bucks of dad’s money for your startup isn’t in and of itself a privilege of the wealthy. starting a business is completely out of scope for most people. it can’t make you a billionaire, but you can’t be a billionaire unless you can start a business, and you can’t do that without money to spend on that business in the vast majority of cases.

                  and the skill of running a business is just not impressive to me. there is no way to cultivate skill at entrepreneurship without doing entrepreneurial things, and that’s just way easier to do if you can afford to fail, and have a way of making yourself the boss of other people. most people can’t afford to fail, so they can’t take risks with quantities of money they’ll probably never accumulate in their lifetime.

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      • Offer to buy Twitter for $44 billion
      • Try to back out when Twitter says “ok lol”
      • Get forced to complete the purchase
      • Saddle Twitter with the debt you now have as a result of buying Twitter
      • Invite all the previously-banned bigots and hatemongers back on the site
      • Make your staff’s lives hell, including bullshit ‘performance’ stuff like checking how many lines-of-code they write, so most of them are either fired or leave on their own
      • Raise API prices sky-high, get ridiculed
      • Lock everything behind user log-in, logged-out users can’t see anything
      • Rate-limit how many things logged-in users can do
      • Break widgets
      • Was once the public square of the internet, now weather services are moving to Mastodon
      • “why are we still losing money >:(”
      • Initiate a half-assed rebrand to “X” but the logo, 𝕏, is literally just a mathematical symbol. Who needs copyright on your billion dollar company’s brand identity, eh?

      Whoa, be careful everyone, these are the slick moves of a master genius!

      It’s entirely possible that he was smart, I’m sure he was to an extent, but I believe that Space X and Tesla have better structures in places for managing/limiting Musk’s direct influence, and I also believe that, like many of the super rich, he’s succumbed to a form of right-wing brain rot over the years. His brain is now smooth and toxic.

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      He bought a company that got bought by PayPal. He didn’t build anything he didn’t run anything. He bought an existing company that got bought out. At SpaceX and Tesla they have entire structures created to stop Elon from fucking up shit and to manage him. If you need your company organized to manage the owner and stop them from fucking shit up you don’t get to claim to be smart or to build amazing stuff. In every case it’s the engineers that build amazing things despite Elon’s involvement. Elon himself is an idiot.