• tko@tkohhh.social
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    1 year ago

    These comments… goodness. May we never, ever lose our humanity. Ailment is not to be celebrated. That man has a family who loves him and are worried about him. I hope he gets the treatment he needs and is returned to good health.

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      1 year ago

      Maintaining a spirit of compassion and forgiveness in your thinking, even in the face of a monster, is positive. Wagging your finger and wrinkling your nose at the distaste that those who aren’t so forgiving of his absolutely horrific misdeeds is not. It pretends to be magnanimous while actually sniping at people who have good reason to be at peace with this man’s suffering.

      I would argue that extending humanity to those who are less than perfect in their response to these horrors should be a higher priority than making sure nobody says anything nasty about someone as destructive as this particular individual.

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        1 year ago

        I don’t agree with your assessment that I’m not “extending humanity to those who are less than perfect in their response.” It’s fine to want the guy out of office ASAP because he’s terrible. My point was simply that if one wants to maintain their own humanity, one should not celebrate the ailments of their enemies. Or, as Nietzsche said: “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.”

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          1 year ago

          Calling their humanity into question when they see the downfall of someone who’s oppressed them and are glad of it isn’t exactly an action rooted in empathy and understanding. Is it?

          Of course overly indulging the ugly parts of ourselves can have disastrous consequences, but do you think it’s more ‘human’ to deny the very real justice people feel when they see powerful and malicious people fall?

          Personally, I think a big part of having humanity for ourselves and one another is not beating ourselves up for being human. We have to have compassion for ourselves and for others who suffer as well as for our enemies. To me, that extends to not shitting on their revelry when Dorothy drops a house on somebody.

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      1 year ago

      By being the brains behind the Republican party, he has done more to endanger the entire world via climate change than almost any other living person. That’s leaving aside the destruction of democracy in America and all the many, many, many individual ruined lives. He is quite literally multiple orders of magnitude more evil than the worst serial killer in history, and when he dies I will hold a massive party in which the house toilet is decorated to resemble his grave.

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      1 year ago

      I think you mean, “I hope he gets the treatment he has worked to deny to millions of other americans and then retires so we never have to see him again.”

      (sorry, edited that. I was letting him off way too easy. Guy is single handedly responsible for holding up basically any and all progressive legislation for thepast… 10+ years and has definitely hurt millions of people as a result.) I don’t want to wish harm on anybody, but this dude sucks and needs to go away.

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        1 year ago

        The good news is you DON’T need to wish harm on him in order to think he sucks and needs to go away. Yes, he sucks, but that’s irrelevant to his health. Celebrating the declining health of somebody because we don’t like them is a big line to cross on the path to becoming a callous ghoul. We need to be better than that.