Why YSK: because what seems like equal situation from surface isn’t always equal opportunity for all. And even when equal measure of help is provided, it might not be equally useful.

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    Capitalism: hire an apple picking expert to pick the apples and sell them at exorbitant prices because there is a monopoly on apples.

    Communism: send the apple picking expert to work in the steel factory and get a random university professor to pick them instead

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      Feudalism: A lord owns the land and the trees growing in it. He has a bunch of peasants who will pick the apples for him. The lord gets all the apples and the peasants are allowed to live on his lands another day. Later that night, they go work on their own farms that hopefully give them enough food to keep going. In the long term they’ll probably starve to death or get kicked out of the house they themselves built. I guess living as s hunter-gatherer in the forest isn’t that bad compared to the other alternatives.

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      No mate, communism is having state managed Apple pickers that pick apples and give them to manager. Management keeps 40% apples for themselves and then divide rest between the whole town, so that everyone in town gets one tiny piece of apple, whether they like apples or not.

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      Communism: send the apple picking expert to work in the steel factory and get a random university professor to pick them instead

      Why? He’s an expert in that, if we don’t have steel mill experts we can train willing participants. Experts should always flow to their field of expertise

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        I think he’s referring to Soviet Russia specifically, where farmers were sent to factories or turned into impromptu pig iron producers because of misguided heavy handed top down policies.

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        The steel mill experts were purged for saying that sending literally everyone to work on smelting steel is unsustainable.

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          I love that the commies on here ignore the fact that every communist government to date had to rely on mass purges and persecution to rule and STILL became utterly corrupt and generated an elite ruling class. I’m not saying capitalism is the way, truth, and light, but holy fuck for as smart as the fediverse commies think they are, they are woefully blind to history. At this point, even western european-style socialism is a reach for the US but these guys want a commie revolution? These idiots want blood on the walls and meanwhile I just want my four year old to have a decent future.

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              Communism is a paradise where everyone gets along and nothing goes wrong. Anything else is not true communism. I just don’t get why that’s so hard to understand.

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              Instead of being a fucking asshole, why don’t you educate me? Can you point me to a real life example of a vibrant communist state that didn’t need to metaphorically or literally crush people to further the communist purpose? I’m well aware of the ideals of Marxism, the history of workers movements, and the historical reality of Stalin, Mao, the Khmer, etc. So please tell me what I know nothing about.

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                Why is that my job? You have access to the internet, fucking do it yourself.

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            There’s an argument to be made that some people need a guiding hand when it comes to caring for others or to act in ways that are beneficial for others and themselves, but it seemed like most tankies on Reddit at least were anti-west contrarians. Nominally they were anti-imperialist but always ignored non-western imperialism.