There is still overlap in the societal aspects, just not the governmental aspects. Mostly because anarchy has no government. That’s the point. People can still choose to work together and basically create a communist society, without any enforcement from a government. Unlikely, but it’s not impossible.
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adj 1: ofor relating toor characteristic of the former Soviet
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n 1: an elected governmental council in a communist country
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That is the thing though, until you abolish class contradictions states are the most effective way of protecting the revolution and suppressing the bourgeoisie. So authority does equal self defense in a real, meaningful way.
No, since states can get couped. The most effective way of protecting the revolution is gathering the masses which can happen without the state, indeed, it has happened multiple time throughout history.
The most effective way of protecting the revolution is gathering the masses which can happen without the state, indeed, it has happened multiple time throughout history.
Anarchists in civil war in spain (until some of them decided to fuck off), I would say the makhnovshchina defended itself pretty well with the scarce resources they had, greek anarchists with their decades old squats, bolivian grassroots movements who helped Evo Morales get in power in Bolivia, etc.
Hey did you notice the “autism” in my name? Maybe I have more perspective to speak on what words are and aren’t slurs against my group than you do fuckass.
Language evolves. “Mental removedation” is not longer recognized as as medical term, its use in modern times is generally regarded as a slur by the disability community and is treated as such in pretty much all communities that actively try to include neurodiverse people are oppose ableism.
So to answer the question of “ince wshen”. The answer is “for at least a couple decades now”. I was actually hit by my friend with a severely disabled brother for using it back in like 2006.
I am active in the disability rights movement and pretty much all of us that are agree the word is a slur and there is no excuse to be using it. Its not a “word for mental capacity” anymore and hasn’t been in a long time. Plus, insinuating that mental disability is a BAD thing is ableist on its face.
Jesus fuck, people need to grow a spine. There are much more pressing matters to cry about. Half the fucking planet is on fire but no, let’s cry about a word.
I grew up on the obese side, was made fun of for it my entire childhood. Do I get offended when I am called fat? No I laugh it off, because it’s true. At some point it’s better to not be offended all day
We can can care about more than one thing at a time lol. Do you also think black people should just “get over” the n word because global warming exists? Or gay people with the f slur? Do you think that women should stop complaining about sexual harassment in the workplace because global warming exists? Those are often “just words” after all. I care deeply about global warming and want to do things about it, probably more than you do, but that doesn’t mean I have to be ok with words meant to insult and attack me and people like me.
Idk if this rhetoric will work with you because you probably do think those things, at least about the slurs.
You’re arguing with a militant apathy enthusiast that wants to say edgy South Park tier shit and get no pushback from it, because they’re allowed to be offended at others getting offended and that’s the only offense allowed according to “nothing offends me” types.
Stop being a crybully because your edgy slurs aren’t welcome here.
At some point it’s better to not be offended all day
Except you are right in that post because you’re not getting praised for your stale edgy slurs. Do you have any fucking self awareness at all, you brained crybully?
I disagree. Not everyone has to be like you and people don’t necessarily have to put up with harassment just because you would be ok with it yourself. I was also a fat kid and was made fun of. Do you think this would give me a free pass to publicly mock fat people, targeted or not? Also why would I be motivated to do so knowing it could possibly hurt someone?
And I disagree with you. You think Internet peeps are going to change my speech?
I don’t make fun of people because I know how it feels.
I was making fun of a meme for being wholly incorrect. The only person who should take offence to my comment is the dummy who made the meme
And now you’re pointing out that me letting someone know their work is incorrect as harassment? Seriously?
Seems like everyone in this thread is making a mountain out of a damn mole hill
It’s pretty clear the user autism dragon has a spine, that’s why they’re telling you to back off instead of accepting you using a term they find hurtful
Or maybe you just need to stop being a whiny little baby when somebody wants you to adjust your behavior to accommodate other people the tiniest fucking bit. *
Anarchy and Communism are not the fucking same, what a retarded meme
To anyone offended, Go watch “The Ringer”
As an anarchist-communist, to me they’re pretty darn close.
Abolish capitalism, smash the State.
That’s like calling all meat eaters cannibals
The meme isn’t stating that they are.
Good luck teaching that difference to the typical 'murican
Let’s get to work
Well to be clear, the “joke” is that the blue hat doesn’t know the difference.
Stay classy with the slurs friendo
When the fuck did a word to describe a state of someone’s mental capacity or therefore lack of become a fucking slur? Pure humbug
Why are you talking like Ebenezer Scrooge
I’m bringing back slurs from the 1800’s
Let’s not bring back any slurs, even if you’re poorly attempting to recreate a joke from Clerks 2.
There is still overlap in the societal aspects, just not the governmental aspects. Mostly because anarchy has no government. That’s the point. People can still choose to work together and basically create a communist society, without any enforcement from a government. Unlikely, but it’s not impossible.
There is overlap especially when you don’t confuse communism as the broader framework with state communism or even worse soviet communism.
I have an idea of what a state is, but what’s a “soviet”? That’s not an English word.
What does “soviet” mean in Russian?
I know you’re being cute but “soviet” is indeed a word in English: http://dict.org/bin/Dict
Soviet adj 1: of or relating to or characteristic of the former Soviet Union or its people; "Soviet leaders" n 1: an elected governmental council in a communist country (especially one that is a member of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics)And it means what I intended it to mean, the official state ideology of the USSR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology_of_the_Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union
Have you read “On Authority” by Engels?
I have, its a terrible “rebuttal” of anarchist criticism of marxism, conflating self-defence with authority.
That is the thing though, until you abolish class contradictions states are the most effective way of protecting the revolution and suppressing the bourgeoisie. So authority does equal self defense in a real, meaningful way.
No, since states can get couped. The most effective way of protecting the revolution is gathering the masses which can happen without the state, indeed, it has happened multiple time throughout history.
Could you point to examples?
Anarchists in civil war in spain (until some of them decided to fuck off), I would say the makhnovshchina defended itself pretty well with the scarce resources they had, greek anarchists with their decades old squats, bolivian grassroots movements who helped Evo Morales get in power in Bolivia, etc.
And the fact that Engels wrote it proves that there were people in the movement even in those early days who disagreed.
They have the same basic endgoal. Also stop using the r word.
It’s a word describing a lack of mental capacity, get over it ya. You views are pure humbug
Hey did you notice the “autism” in my name? Maybe I have more perspective to speak on what words are and aren’t slurs against my group than you do fuckass.
You just scratched a liberal! Comrade Amogus is on the case!
8m autistic too, what’s your fucking point?
Language evolves. “Mental removedation” is not longer recognized as as medical term, its use in modern times is generally regarded as a slur by the disability community and is treated as such in pretty much all communities that actively try to include neurodiverse people are oppose ableism.
So to answer the question of “ince wshen”. The answer is “for at least a couple decades now”. I was actually hit by my friend with a severely disabled brother for using it back in like 2006.
I am active in the disability rights movement and pretty much all of us that are agree the word is a slur and there is no excuse to be using it. Its not a “word for mental capacity” anymore and hasn’t been in a long time. Plus, insinuating that mental disability is a BAD thing is ableist on its face.
Jesus fuck, people need to grow a spine. There are much more pressing matters to cry about. Half the fucking planet is on fire but no, let’s cry about a word.
I grew up on the obese side, was made fun of for it my entire childhood. Do I get offended when I am called fat? No I laugh it off, because it’s true. At some point it’s better to not be offended all day
multiple things can matter at once
Caring a whole lot about not caring and making sure no one cares too much is the definition of maturity for “nothing offends me”
types.
We can can care about more than one thing at a time lol. Do you also think black people should just “get over” the n word because global warming exists? Or gay people with the f slur? Do you think that women should stop complaining about sexual harassment in the workplace because global warming exists? Those are often “just words” after all. I care deeply about global warming and want to do things about it, probably more than you do, but that doesn’t mean I have to be ok with words meant to insult and attack me and people like me.
Idk if this rhetoric will work with you because you probably do think those things, at least about the slurs.
You’re arguing with a militant apathy enthusiast that wants to say edgy South Park tier shit and get no pushback from it, because they’re allowed to be offended at others getting offended and that’s the only offense allowed according to “nothing offends me”
types.
Just stop being a weird hostile fuck when someone takes away your comfort slur
Not a comfort, just how I talk. I grew up with retard meaning to be mentally slow or a stupid action. The offence y’all are taking is fucking retarded
You first.
Stop being a crybully because your edgy slurs aren’t welcome here.
Except you are right in that post because you’re not getting praised for your stale edgy slurs. Do you have any fucking self awareness at all, you
brained crybully?
I’m not the one crying over a word that was not directed at anyone in particular. The meme is technically wrong and is stupid
That’s part of my autism I don’t have filters.
Thanks for being the bully in this transaction
I disagree. Not everyone has to be like you and people don’t necessarily have to put up with harassment just because you would be ok with it yourself. I was also a fat kid and was made fun of. Do you think this would give me a free pass to publicly mock fat people, targeted or not? Also why would I be motivated to do so knowing it could possibly hurt someone?
And I disagree with you. You think Internet peeps are going to change my speech? I don’t make fun of people because I know how it feels. I was making fun of a meme for being wholly incorrect. The only person who should take offence to my comment is the dummy who made the meme
And now you’re pointing out that me letting someone know their work is incorrect as harassment? Seriously?
Seems like everyone in this thread is making a mountain out of a damn mole hill
It’s pretty clear the user autism dragon has a spine, that’s why they’re telling you to back off instead of accepting you using a term they find hurtful
being spineless is when stand up for yourself
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*>> Jesus fuck, people need to grow a spine.
Or maybe you just need to stop being a whiny little baby when somebody wants you to adjust your behavior to accommodate other people the tiniest fucking bit. *
Pot calling the kettle black… grow up