• Appointee4912@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    This is all unrealistic ideals. Consider that in the case of Amazon it took around 15 years for Amazon to become really this huge. This doesn’t come out of nothing, it comes out of the hard work and decisions of tons of people who have incentives to get rich and make the business plans to make the company succeed.

    On one hand, the moment you make any of this public property, the quality will drop considerably and it’ll collapse, because no one will ever gain anything by this business thriving. It’s the same reason why governments’ employees are well knowns for being lazy and slow once they get their jobs and can’t be easily fired. I’ve seen that first hand in Germany.

    On the other hand, consider that Amazon doesn’t have a trade secret, really. There’s nothing that other companies cannot do. There’s no secret sauce here in this case, like you’re suggesting with inventions.

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      1 year ago

      Oh I wasn’t really responding to OP’s meme, just providing context for what that guy was asking. For what you’re saying, I mean, maybe? I don’t think it’s a particularly good comparison to look at current government employees in the society we have and say that’s what a Marxist society of workers would look like. The incentives are different because imo “job security” isn’t that important in a society where people aren’t being threatened with homelessness or starvation if they don’t have a job. Even that bit has to tie into a lot of systems, it’s a society wide change in perspective. I don’t think either of us can honestly say definitively what would and wouldn’t work.

      I do think Amazon has a secret sauce, though, in the sense that they have privilege that other companies don’t. At the time it started, it may have just been any other online store. They weren’t the only ones. Now it’s a well known brand, and they got there through burning a lot of money to aggressively get customers, then sellers, to only then profit. It took them almost a decade to become profitable, I don’t think there’s many businesses that could afford to not be profitable for that long. Their secret sauce when they were growing was tons of money that most companies don’t have access to (which of course also gets you the best people since money is just about everyone’s main incentive in the society we’ve built), now their secret sauce is their network. Because of how entrenched they are, you’d need a lot more money than they did to try to recreate it now.