I’m just saying, you assert capitalist countries would do the same as communist countries with political dissidents, why aren’t you in a capitalist gulag for speaking against capitalism quite publically?
Look at what happened actual organized dissidents like Fred Hapton, MLK, the Black Panthers, the original Black Lives Matters organizers in Ferguson etc. if you want to see what the US gov does to dissidents. We’re just people on a reddit clone, they don’t care
He’s entitled to keep the product of his labour, “hiring” isn’t a thing after the revolution since “money” isn’t a thing after the revolution, nor is “owning” a farm. If he “hires” a guy to plant crops, the hired man has done the labor and thus owns the crops. Since the farm is “the means of production,” “the man who owns the farm” does not actually own the farm, “the people” do.
I’m talking about how farms are in capitalist US now. People who own the land rip off laborers, who tend to be migrant workers without a way of protecting themselves.
I want the revolution to expropriatate the land and belong to to the people
Oh he had listed those things as “people who should fear communism” so I thought you were on topic not just throwing semi-related jabs at farmers who will never read this, so I thought you meant like “only if he pays people less than minimum wage” so I popped in with “no no, not even if he does pay well.” My mistake!
The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, leading to almost totally equal redistribution of the land amongst the peasantry
And farmers who own their lands, and workers who want unions independent of the state, and political dissidents, and a thousand other groups
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you mean that land that is worthless without government fundings and bail out?
wut im sorry are you gonna try to claim capitalism is better for workers? XD
that you just made up
Idk man the kulaks liked their land and died for it
By any objective measure, capitalism plus taxes and a robust social welfare system is the best available system.
Because you said it XD you got nothing bro.
A bold claim that I’d love to see you substantiate
which burned their crop because they didn’t want to collectivize causing food shortages
which were ultimately used by the west (solidarnośc)
Unlike any other country
No u
You’re a political dissident if you live in a capitalist country. You in jail?
You think society should improve, but you’re not in jail, so society is perfect. Checkmate commie
I’m just saying, you assert capitalist countries would do the same as communist countries with political dissidents, why aren’t you in a capitalist gulag for speaking against capitalism quite publically?
Look at what happened actual organized dissidents like Fred Hapton, MLK, the Black Panthers, the original Black Lives Matters organizers in Ferguson etc. if you want to see what the US gov does to dissidents. We’re just people on a reddit clone, they don’t care
“Farmers who own their own lands”
And hire laborers that make less than minimum wage
He’s entitled to keep the product of his labour, “hiring” isn’t a thing after the revolution since “money” isn’t a thing after the revolution, nor is “owning” a farm. If he “hires” a guy to plant crops, the hired man has done the labor and thus owns the crops. Since the farm is “the means of production,” “the man who owns the farm” does not actually own the farm, “the people” do.
I’m talking about how farms are in capitalist US now. People who own the land rip off laborers, who tend to be migrant workers without a way of protecting themselves.
I want the revolution to expropriatate the land and belong to to the people
Oh he had listed those things as “people who should fear communism” so I thought you were on topic not just throwing semi-related jabs at farmers who will never read this, so I thought you meant like “only if he pays people less than minimum wage” so I popped in with “no no, not even if he does pay well.” My mistake!
Edit: People like that do fear communism. They’re kulaks
I changed “should” to “do”, because they don’t have to fear it, but most do because of their class position
The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, leading to almost totally equal redistribution of the land amongst the peasantry