“Not content with depriving girls and women of education, employment, and free movement, the Taliban also want to take from them parks and sport and now even nature, as we see from this latest ban on women visiting Band-e-Amir,” Human Rights Watch’s Associate Women’s Rights Director Heather Barr says.

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      The people living in afghanistan are the ones being victimized by the taliban. They do have supporters obviously, but to say that all men living in afghanistan are okay with what’s happening is ridiculous.

      If America was violently overtaken by gun-toting religious maniacs, would it be fair to say “Oh well some of them voted for it! Their fault!”

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        I’m referring more to the fact that the west spent two decades there trying to train Afghan soldiers to defend against the Taliban, we equipped them with weapons tools, spent billions on infrastructure. And after all that literally only a handful of people even bothered to resist when the Taliban came in. There is no underground resistance, no sabotage of the Taliban’s rule etc. There are no real signs of any will to resistance, so what else are we to make of that besides this is the way the majority wants it?

        If the US were taken over by the far right, and then that fascist government dislodged by a European coalition it is very likely that there would be a strong effort by a lot of Americans to seize on that disruption because right-wing fascism is not a popular ideology here despite their outsized influence.

        There are many victims of the Taliban, I’m not denying that, it’s more that if the majority of people do nothing how can it be said that Afghan’s care about those victims? And if Afghan’s can’t bring themselves to care enough to fight, and outsiders already spent twenty years there trying to do something different, what can the west do besides help people escape?

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          Okay, but the US didn’t do a great job of preparing Afghanistan for resisting the Taliban when they left. Have you seen John Oliver’s very good segment on the topic? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2hw_ghPcQs&ab_channel=LastWeekTonight

          The US basically packed everything up and left overnight. Afghanis have had to survive wars, starvation, isolation, no technology to co-ordinate… Once trucks full of Taliban guys with M16s start moving into every community what are regular afghanis supposed to do?

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          They definitely did. But a whole lot of Americans voted against them, too. It would be unfair to dismiss all of America because some of them vote for these people.

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        America is being taken over by gun-toting religious maniacs, and yeah, most of the populace supports them. Take a look at Trump’s recent poll numbers.

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          Yes, they are trying. Sorry I should rephrase that to “if America was successfully overtaken”

          I still wouldn’t say most of the populace, it’s more like a tie. But thats’ definitely a way way higher number than there should be considering.