• Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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    1 year ago

    Fine by me, as long as the companies making the cars take all responsibility for accidents. Which, you know, the human drivers do.

    But the car companies want to sell you their shitty autonomous driving software and make you be responsible.

    If they don’t trust it enough, why should I?

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      1 year ago

      Well you shouldn’t trust it and the car company tells you this. It’s not foolproof and something to be blindly relied on. It’s a system that assists driving but doesn’t replace the driver. Not in it’s current form atleast though they may be getting close.

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        1 year ago

        Then what’s the discussion even about? I don’t want autonomous cars on the street because even their creators don’t trust them to make it.

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          Most people consider cruise control to be quite useful feature thought it still requires you to pay attention that you stay on your lane and don’t run into a slower vehicle in front of you. You can then keep adding features such as radar for adaptive cruise control and lane assist and this further decreases the stuff you need to pay attention to but you still need to sit there behind the wheel watching the road. These self-driving systems at their current form are no different. They’re just further along the spectrum towards self driving. Some day we will reach the point that you sitting on the driver’s seat just introduces noise to the system so better you go take a nap on the back seat. We’re not there yet however. This is still just super sophisticated cruise control.

          It’s kind of like with chess engines. First humans are better at it than computers. Then computer + human is better than just the computer and then at some point the human is no longer needed and computer will from there on always be better.

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              Well Cruise is offering a full self driving taxi service where they don’t mandate you as a passenger to pay attention to the traffic and take control if needed so it’s not fair to say that they don’t trust it so why should you.

              With Tesla however this is the case but despite their rather aggresive marketing they still make it very clear that this is not finished yet and you are allowed to use it but you’re still the driver and the safe use of it is on your responsibility. That’s the case with the beta version of any software; you get it early which is what early adopters like but you’re expected to encounter bugs and this is the trade-off you have to accept.

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                Is the company legally liable for the actions of the self driving car? If no, then they don’t trust the vehicles.

                What charges would apply against a human that delayed an emergency vehicle and caused someone to die?

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                  There’s several court cases ongoing about this stuff and I’d be surprised if these companies didn’t have any liability

                  • That’s a moved goalpost, and you know it.

                    If liability is forced on them, that is a huge difference from them voluntarily accepting responsibility. That is what would indicate that they trusted the service they provided.