• onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    Communism focusses too much power in too few positions

    Literally the opposite of communism

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      1 year ago

      The ideal of communism, maybe. Yet every country that called itself communist became authotarian. Why is that? Evil tongues might suggest that the ideal of communism simply fails to prevail when confronted with reality.

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        1 year ago

        No country has claimed to have achieved communism. Many other places have tried but it’s usually crushed by capitalist or sometimes even by states claiming to be socialist. It’s also a really simple and tbh ahistorical explanation to claim that communism didn’t work simply because “it was confronted with reality”.

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      1 year ago

      In theory yes, and you are going to say all communist countries were not “real communism” now ? The USSR was known for its ruthless and violent political scenes. Leaders condemning their opponents’ families to discredit them for example. North Korea gives all power to the supreme leader (a communist monarchy lmfao). Communist China is the closest to what you might you believe in but it’s insanely violent in the backstage. The closer you are to higher seats of power, the more in danger you are.

      On top of that any individual at the top can effectively enact their preferred policies over everyone. Millions died simply because the supreme leader ordered so.

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        1 year ago

        The “authority” exists to defend socialist states from the imperialist capitalist states, dummy. Communist states are not going around establishing hundreds of military bases, carpet bombing and genociding countries and creating a media-military propaganda machine for their citizens to fear boogeymen for the horrors their own politicians and corporations are committing against them. This is something Britain, USA and other colonial European states have done and/or are doing to this day since over 5 centuries. In fact, all Western countries that claim to be democracies were full on dictatorships until they looted off hundreds of trillions from Eastern and colonised countries.

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          @TheAnonymouseJoker @Alpharius >Communist states are not going around establishing hundreds of military bases, carpet bombing and genociding countries and creating a media-military propaganda machine for their citizens to fear boogeymen for the horrors their own politicians and corporations are committing against them.

          China does a solid chunk of that - they broker deals to use other country’s ports as naval bases, they have an ongoing genocide of the Uyghurs and Falun Gong, they were responsible for the mass spread of COVID in late 2019/early 2020, and their propaganda machine is strongly tied to their military.

          It is disingenuous to pretend communist states do not do things that the largest communist state in the world does.